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SamuelRSmith said:
bannedagain said:

I would have to disagree, if we just ended the bush tax cuts we would cut off 7 trillion in the next 10 years and all of it in the next 20. most likely faster because the economy would get bigger. So the important things that protect your food, water, and many other things is really important. Yes some things can be cut but the problem istn't cutting it's a revenue problem. The rich don't pay there fair share. Mitt pays 13.9%. I pay around 30%. I'm not rich and need the money a lot more then him. There is a revenue problem, which means my tax' s  and social, good programs that are there for reason need to get cut because the rich are a like f them I want 26 house's instead. I don't  want to pay into what has made and allowed me to profit. The military, roads, cops, firefighters and many others things allow them and there products to be protected and run smoothly to the customer. none of this is cheap.  


$7 trillion over 10 years? Yeah, that's nothing compared to what needs to be raised. You do realise the unfunded liabilities on medicaid/medicare/social security are 3 times the size of world GDP, right? Bush tax cuts, or not, you can't fix that problem without cuts in those programs.

I hate this notion of "fair share", it's like some collectivist argument that we're all pawns, only existing to the benefit of the "national good". Bollocks to that. I commend those who shove their fingers up to the Government, and pay as little tax as they can get away with. Taxation is theft, we should not be supporting the thieves.

Out of that list of things you've posted, the only things that a Government should be doing is the military, and local Governments providing police/court system. And those things can easily be funded without the income tax.


you raise the SS tax past 110,000$ solves social security problem. cut loop holes that exist even with bush tax cuts gone. Done. Look you don't like tax's, move to mexico and see how thats working out. It's a sh-t hole because no one pays tax's'

When I drive over a bridge or stop at a stop light. I know non of that was cheap and has to keep being updated, so If you selfish and don't like funding this great country then go ahead and dodge all you want. I don't mind paying my 30% at all. I mind that a guy that make's millions pay less then me. his money actually is made off of the roads and many of things his trucks drive on. Polute our air> So really it means that people don't care to live in a country that is nice. you want it smoking and bad water, no rules and where corporations get away with everything because you defunded all the regulatory system in place.

 

Also medicade all you have to do is get rid of medicare part D which makes it so they have to pay store shelf price and not get discounted like every other buyer does. This was a scam by bush. all these things where put into place by republicans so they can say see it doesn't work, when it worked fine before.  so really all we have to do is get rid of most of bush and the right wing policies put into place in the last 30 years. PRoblem solved.



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LOL OP posts a video Newt Gingrich's SuperPAC and expects everyone to take it as the gospel on Romney!



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You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

NightDragon83 said:
LOL OP posts a video Newt Gingrich's SuperPAC and expects everyone to take it as the gospel on Romney!



where do you think gingrich got this sh-t from. TED KENNEDY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdYx19temU8

Gingrich is a idiot I agree but this record is mess for romney.



I'm not a big fan of Obama but he is going to destroy romney in the debates I can't wait.





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bannedagain said:

you raise the SS tax past 110,000$ solves social security problem. cut loop holes that exist even with bush tax cuts gone. Done. Look you don't like tax's, move to mexico and see how thats working out. It's a sh-t hole because no one pays tax's'

Why pick Mexico? Why not Switzerland or Hong Kong?

When I drive over a bridge or stop at a stop light. I know non of that was cheap and has to keep being updated, so If you selfish and don't like funding this great country then go ahead and dodge all you want. I don't mind paying my 30% at all. I mind that a guy that make's millions pay less then me. his money actually is made off of the roads and many of things his trucks drive on. Polute our air> So really it means that people don't care to live in a country that is nice. you want it smoking and bad water, no rules and where corporations get away with everything because you defunded all the regulatory system in place.

Also medicade all you have to do is get rid of medicare part D which makes it so they have to pay store shelf price and not get discounted like every other buyer does. This was a scam by bush. all these things where put into place by republicans so they can say see it doesn't work, when it worked fine before.  so really all we have to do is get rid of most of bush and the right wing policies put into place in the last 30 years. PRoblem solved.

You really have no idea how big the unfunded liabilities is. Part D is only a small part of it.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/245-trillion-us-national-debt-144-trillion-unfunded-liabilities-2015 <- total unfunded liabilities $144tn.
http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2010/03/speaking_of_lia.html <- medicare part d unfunded $7tn





SamuelRSmith said:
bannedagain said:

you raise the SS tax past 110,000$ solves social security problem. cut loop holes that exist even with bush tax cuts gone. Done. Look you don't like tax's, move to mexico and see how thats working out. It's a sh-t hole because no one pays tax's'

Why pick Mexico? Why not Switzerland or Hong Kong?

When I drive over a bridge or stop at a stop light. I know non of that was cheap and has to keep being updated, so If you selfish and don't like funding this great country then go ahead and dodge all you want. I don't mind paying my 30% at all. I mind that a guy that make's millions pay less then me. his money actually is made off of the roads and many of things his trucks drive on. Polute our air> So really it means that people don't care to live in a country that is nice. you want it smoking and bad water, no rules and where corporations get away with everything because you defunded all the regulatory system in place.

Also medicade all you have to do is get rid of medicare part D which makes it so they have to pay store shelf price and not get discounted like every other buyer does. This was a scam by bush. all these things where put into place by republicans so they can say see it doesn't work, when it worked fine before.  so really all we have to do is get rid of most of bush and the right wing policies put into place in the last 30 years. PRoblem solved.

You really have no idea how big the unfunded liabilities is. Part D is only a small part of it.------

YOU REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH REVENUE IS  NOT COMING IN DUE TO LOOP HOLES FOR CORPORATIONS AND THE UPPER 1%

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/245-trillion-us-national-debt-144-trillion-unfunded-liabilities-2015 <- total unfunded liabilities $144tn.
http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2010/03/speaking_of_lia.html <- medicare part d unfunded $7tn



Yea I see where your getting your info. we have a revenue problem, I also said we can cut in some areas. Defense is  hugh part. Non of this was a problem under clinton and all the same programs where in place. So what went bad, BUSH and policies, not anything else. they deverted money out into defense and wars.

 

Defense spending to spike $2.1 trillion under Romney

So why would you go with romney anyway if you against spending. I understand the bad taste from obama but Romney is not the answer and nor is Ron Paul. So lesser of two evils. OBAMA 



bannedagain said:
I'm not a big fan of Obama but he is going to destroy romney in the debates I can't wait.

He and his teleprompter probably would but aren't you forgetting somebody still running?



The rEVOLution is not being televised

Viper1 said:
bannedagain said:
I'm not a big fan of Obama but he is going to destroy romney in the debates I can't wait.

He and his teleprompter probably would but aren't you forgetting somebody still running?



Yes you are right but really I don't think they have a chance. i really won't hand  the election to Romney to vote 3rd party. Ron Paul has great idea's but horrible ones too.



bannedagain said:
Viper1 said:

He and his teleprompter probably would but aren't you forgetting somebody still running?

Yes you are right but really I don't think they have a chance. i really won't hand  the election to Romney to vote 3rd party. Ron Paul has great idea's but horrible ones too.

The problem is that you are assuming he'll be 3rd party and you are assuming Romney is a foregone conclusion for the R nomination.

 

He's not.  At all.  Look for truth, not media entertainment hype.



The rEVOLution is not being televised