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gergroy on 17 May 2012
bannedagain said:
gergroy said:
This movie was put out by gingrichs super pac and was so widely discredited that they ended up dropping it after about a week. Romney isnt the most likeable guy (i was for hunstman) but his business career is a good thing. Our federal government is bloated, and romneys business career tasked him with going into troubled companies and turning them around to profitable again. This usually involved labor reductions and benefits being cut, but that is what these companies needed to stay afloat. If he did that to the federal government, it would be a good thing.

Now, there are other reasons not to vote for romney, i personally havent made up my mind for who or even if i will vote, but if you actually look at the facts about romneys business career you will find it is a good thing for romney. It makes him uniquely qualified to be president at a time when our debt level is so comepletely ridiculous that we had our credit downgraded. Our government is in a very similar situation as a lot of the troubled businesses that romney helped turn around.



Actually it was stopped because the super pac ran out of money. Also the federal government is only bloated in defense and undercut in other area's. So yes I think we can trim the useless empire we have built. We are splurging money because of decisions made by bush. All from bush tax cuts and the wars and deregulation of wall st. and the banks. Which clinton had a big foot in on. So, Really we need to get ride of right wing aggenda's. There a joke and have never worked.

IF IT WAS SO WIDELY DISCREDITED THEN WHY DID NEWT WIN SOUTH CAROLINA PRIMARY WHERE THEY PLAYED THIS VIDEO. THEN HE RAN OUT OF MONEY. WE GOT DOWN GRADED AND WAS SAID BY S&P BY REPUBLICANS HOLDING THE HOUSE HOSTAGE. ALL YOU FACT ARE NONSENSE.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/newt-gingrich-wins-south-carolina-primary/2012/01/21/gIQAKTxBHQ_story.html

http://www.thenation.com/blog/162612/gop-causes-sp-downgrade-republican-candidates-blame-obama

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/downgrade-blame-gop-gets-it/2011/08/08/gIQA00FQ2I_blog.html

Thats the problem republicans don't work of facts. They work off feelings and religion.

 

what the, you just got done defending the video in a previous post and now you are saying that it isn't true?  And no, the ads didn't stop because the super pac ran out of money, the ads stopped when newt gingrich told them to get rid of them.  Newt won south carolina because he did well in the debates and he campaigned there the most.  It was also revealed right before the primary that mitt didn't actually win Iowa.  I'm sure the comercials did have an impact on voters that didn't bother fact checking it.  

as for the s&p downgrade, we were downgraded because the republicans and democrats couldn't come to a compromise on the DEBT.  Spending was out of control and the s&P came out and said it was downgraded because of "current level of debt, the trajectory of debt as a share of the economy, and the lack of apparent willingness of elected officials as a group to deal with the U.S. medium term fiscal outlook."

 

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2011-08-05-s-and-p-downgrades-credit_n.htm



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gergroy on 17 May 2012
bannedagain said:
gergroy said:
bannedagain said:
gergroy said:
WiiBox3 said:
A well made video, that makes you truly believe that Romney is out there to only help himself at any cost.

The question is when he will start talking about his stance on the things that matter the most and not the minor controversial issues.


seriously?  well made?  sigh... this is why America is what it is...

Ok what you and most here posted did not mention or even think about. Most of those people only got partial pentions or nothing because of romney. Now some get picked up and paid by the federal government. So why are we picking up romney's vulture capitilism costs by our tax dollars.  Yes a republican made this about romney.  I see the same ol right wing extremist that are usually in here. Talking trash about things but yet never have facts to back them up. Here's the deal, romney is a joke!!!!

Also if romney reduced a little profit for him self he could have saved all those companies.  This is what right wing politics has come to, reagan started it and bush pushed the envelope, we crashed. Fact. Supply side ecconomics does not work. Obama is not great because he is a moderate republican but thats not good enough for the extremist on the right wing agenda in america. We need a real progressive to lead and put you nuts back where you belong. In the south where you can be a racist, bigot and hate all you want, while you shove your noise up the 1% arse and hope they give you some scraps.

 

sigh...

http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/01/12/the-bain-bomb-fizzles/

everything you just said is in fact, not true.  The movie is crap, it couldn't even get the most basic facts straight. 

as far as your political rant, to me that pretty much just discredits everything you say in my eyes.  I'm not a republican or a democrat.  I'm a centrist independent.  Both sides have valid positions a variety of issues and there is plenty of room to meet in the middle.  Its biased crap like you are spewing right now that is why america is where it is today.  

Republicans whole approach is no meeting in the middle. I side with bernie sanders the most. senator of vermont a independent.  Your biased as they come and using right wing sites to prove your points won't work.

lol, cnn is a right wing site?  plus, I was just reposting a link somebody eles had already posted that talked about the inaccuracies in the movie.  Did you even read it?  I am biased for not picking sides between republicans and democrats?  are you hearing yourself?  



bannedagain on 17 May 2012
gergroy said:
bannedagain said:
gergroy said:
bannedagain said:
gergroy said:
WiiBox3 said:
A well made video, that makes you truly believe that Romney is out there to only help himself at any cost.

The question is when he will start talking about his stance on the things that matter the most and not the minor controversial issues.


seriously?  well made?  sigh... this is why America is what it is...

Ok what you and most here posted did not mention or even think about. Most of those people only got partial pentions or nothing because of romney. Now some get picked up and paid by the federal government. So why are we picking up romney's vulture capitilism costs by our tax dollars.  Yes a republican made this about romney.  I see the same ol right wing extremist that are usually in here. Talking trash about things but yet never have facts to back them up. Here's the deal, romney is a joke!!!!

Also if romney reduced a little profit for him self he could have saved all those companies.  This is what right wing politics has come to, reagan started it and bush pushed the envelope, we crashed. Fact. Supply side ecconomics does not work. Obama is not great because he is a moderate republican but thats not good enough for the extremist on the right wing agenda in america. We need a real progressive to lead and put you nuts back where you belong. In the south where you can be a racist, bigot and hate all you want, while you shove your noise up the 1% arse and hope they give you some scraps.

 

sigh...

http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/01/12/the-bain-bomb-fizzles/

everything you just said is in fact, not true.  The movie is crap, it couldn't even get the most basic facts straight. 

as far as your political rant, to me that pretty much just discredits everything you say in my eyes.  I'm not a republican or a democrat.  I'm a centrist independent.  Both sides have valid positions a variety of issues and there is plenty of room to meet in the middle.  Its biased crap like you are spewing right now that is why america is where it is today.  

Republicans whole approach is no meeting in the middle. I side with bernie sanders the most. senator of vermont a independent.  Your biased as they come and using right wing sites to prove your points won't work.

lol, cnn is a right wing site?  plus, I was just reposting a link somebody eles had already posted that talked about the inaccuracies in the movie.  Did you even read it?  I am biased for not picking sides between republicans and democrats?  are you hearing yourself?  

I vote independit and democratically. However I strongly opposed rahm emanuel in chicago in which I live. CNN, yes swings right more then not.

here's the truth, there have been right wing policies, no matter who has ruled, since Reagan and this is what we got.



gergroy on 17 May 2012
bannedagain said:
gergroy said:
bannedagain said:
gergroy said:
bannedagain said:
gergroy said:
WiiBox3 said:
A well made video, that makes you truly believe that Romney is out there to only help himself at any cost.

The question is when he will start talking about his stance on the things that matter the most and not the minor controversial issues.


seriously?  well made?  sigh... this is why America is what it is...

Ok what you and most here posted did not mention or even think about. Most of those people only got partial pentions or nothing because of romney. Now some get picked up and paid by the federal government. So why are we picking up romney's vulture capitilism costs by our tax dollars.  Yes a republican made this about romney.  I see the same ol right wing extremist that are usually in here. Talking trash about things but yet never have facts to back them up. Here's the deal, romney is a joke!!!!

Also if romney reduced a little profit for him self he could have saved all those companies.  This is what right wing politics has come to, reagan started it and bush pushed the envelope, we crashed. Fact. Supply side ecconomics does not work. Obama is not great because he is a moderate republican but thats not good enough for the extremist on the right wing agenda in america. We need a real progressive to lead and put you nuts back where you belong. In the south where you can be a racist, bigot and hate all you want, while you shove your noise up the 1% arse and hope they give you some scraps.

 

sigh...

http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/01/12/the-bain-bomb-fizzles/

everything you just said is in fact, not true.  The movie is crap, it couldn't even get the most basic facts straight. 

as far as your political rant, to me that pretty much just discredits everything you say in my eyes.  I'm not a republican or a democrat.  I'm a centrist independent.  Both sides have valid positions a variety of issues and there is plenty of room to meet in the middle.  Its biased crap like you are spewing right now that is why america is where it is today.  

Republicans whole approach is no meeting in the middle. I side with bernie sanders the most. senator of vermont a independent.  Your biased as they come and using right wing sites to prove your points won't work.

lol, cnn is a right wing site?  plus, I was just reposting a link somebody eles had already posted that talked about the inaccuracies in the movie.  Did you even read it?  I am biased for not picking sides between republicans and democrats?  are you hearing yourself?  

I vote independit and democratically. However I strongly opposed rahm emanuel in chicago in which I live. CNN, yes swings right more then not.

here's the truth, there have been right wing policies, no matter who has ruled, since Reagan and this is what we got.


dude, I don't care about your chart or your political agenda.  I posted on this thread to talk about the video you wanted us to watch and how it is a bunch of crap.  



bannedagain on 17 May 2012
gergroy said:
bannedagain said:
gergroy said:
bannedagain said:
gergroy said:
bannedagain said:
gergroy said:
WiiBox3 said:
A well made video, that makes you truly believe that Romney is out there to only help himself at any cost.

The question is when he will start talking about his stance on the things that matter the most and not the minor controversial issues.


seriously?  well made?  sigh... this is why America is what it is...

Ok what you and most here posted did not mention or even think about. Most of those people only got partial pentions or nothing because of romney. Now some get picked up and paid by the federal government. So why are we picking up romney's vulture capitilism costs by our tax dollars.  Yes a republican made this about romney.  I see the same ol right wing extremist that are usually in here. Talking trash about things but yet never have facts to back them up. Here's the deal, romney is a joke!!!!

Also if romney reduced a little profit for him self he could have saved all those companies.  This is what right wing politics has come to, reagan started it and bush pushed the envelope, we crashed. Fact. Supply side ecconomics does not work. Obama is not great because he is a moderate republican but thats not good enough for the extremist on the right wing agenda in america. We need a real progressive to lead and put you nuts back where you belong. In the south where you can be a racist, bigot and hate all you want, while you shove your noise up the 1% arse and hope they give you some scraps.

 

sigh...

http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/01/12/the-bain-bomb-fizzles/

everything you just said is in fact, not true.  The movie is crap, it couldn't even get the most basic facts straight. 

as far as your political rant, to me that pretty much just discredits everything you say in my eyes.  I'm not a republican or a democrat.  I'm a centrist independent.  Both sides have valid positions a variety of issues and there is plenty of room to meet in the middle.  Its biased crap like you are spewing right now that is why america is where it is today.  

Republicans whole approach is no meeting in the middle. I side with bernie sanders the most. senator of vermont a independent.  Your biased as they come and using right wing sites to prove your points won't work.

lol, cnn is a right wing site?  plus, I was just reposting a link somebody eles had already posted that talked about the inaccuracies in the movie.  Did you even read it?  I am biased for not picking sides between republicans and democrats?  are you hearing yourself?  

I vote independit and democratically. However I strongly opposed rahm emanuel in chicago in which I live. CNN, yes swings right more then not.

here's the truth, there have been right wing policies, no matter who has ruled, since Reagan and this is what we got.


dude, I don't care about your chart or your political agenda.  I posted on this thread to talk about the video you wanted us to watch and how it is a bunch of crap.  


Well dude I think the video no matter how you twist it, shows a crude business man  that could give a sh-t about normal people. All he had to do is make a few million less. All those companies could have been saved. If you don't understand why they went in and bought them is clearly over your head. It was about loading them up with debt and then walking away with all the money. So basically they forced the process for profit.



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bannedagain on 17 May 2012
gergroy said:
bannedagain said:
gergroy said:
This movie was put out by gingrichs super pac and was so widely discredited that they ended up dropping it after about a week. Romney isnt the most likeable guy (i was for hunstman) but his business career is a good thing. Our federal government is bloated, and romneys business career tasked him with going into troubled companies and turning them around to profitable again. This usually involved labor reductions and benefits being cut, but that is what these companies needed to stay afloat. If he did that to the federal government, it would be a good thing.

Now, there are other reasons not to vote for romney, i personally havent made up my mind for who or even if i will vote, but if you actually look at the facts about romneys business career you will find it is a good thing for romney. It makes him uniquely qualified to be president at a time when our debt level is so comepletely ridiculous that we had our credit downgraded. Our government is in a very similar situation as a lot of the troubled businesses that romney helped turn around.



Actually it was stopped because the super pac ran out of money. Also the federal government is only bloated in defense and undercut in other area's. So yes I think we can trim the useless empire we have built. We are splurging money because of decisions made by bush. All from bush tax cuts and the wars and deregulation of wall st. and the banks. Which clinton had a big foot in on. So, Really we need to get ride of right wing aggenda's. There a joke and have never worked.

IF IT WAS SO WIDELY DISCREDITED THEN WHY DID NEWT WIN SOUTH CAROLINA PRIMARY WHERE THEY PLAYED THIS VIDEO. THEN HE RAN OUT OF MONEY. WE GOT DOWN GRADED AND WAS SAID BY S&P BY REPUBLICANS HOLDING THE HOUSE HOSTAGE. ALL YOU FACT ARE NONSENSE.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/newt-gingrich-wins-south-carolina-primary/2012/01/21/gIQAKTxBHQ_story.html

http://www.thenation.com/blog/162612/gop-causes-sp-downgrade-republican-candidates-blame-obama

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/downgrade-blame-gop-gets-it/2011/08/08/gIQA00FQ2I_blog.html

Thats the problem republicans don't work of facts. They work off feelings and religion.

 

what the, you just got done defending the video in a previous post and now you are saying that it isn't true?  And no, the ads didn't stop because the super pac ran out of money, the ads stopped when newt gingrich told them to get rid of them.  Newt won south carolina because he did well in the debates and he campaigned there the most.  It was also revealed right before the primary that mitt didn't actually win Iowa.  I'm sure the comercials did have an impact on voters that didn't bother fact checking it.  

as for the s&p downgrade, we were downgraded because the republicans and democrats couldn't come to a compromise on the DEBT.  Spending was out of control and the s&P came out and said it was downgraded because of "current level of debt, the trajectory of debt as a share of the economy, and the lack of apparent willingness of elected officials as a group to deal with the U.S. medium term fiscal outlook."

 

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2011-08-05-s-and-p-downgrades-credit_n.htm


never said the video was untrue and that last sentence says basically republicans would not compromise to pay there bills d--- a--. You are making up what you want and going with what you want to spin . I'm done with you, your no facts and all talk. done. Dems meet every term Rep. asked for and republicans backed off on there own deal and made this happen. READ THE BILLS DUDE.



bannedagain on 17 May 2012
bannedagain said:
gergroy said:
bannedagain said:
gergroy said:
This movie was put out by gingrichs super pac and was so widely discredited that they ended up dropping it after about a week. Romney isnt the most likeable guy (i was for hunstman) but his business career is a good thing. Our federal government is bloated, and romneys business career tasked him with going into troubled companies and turning them around to profitable again. This usually involved labor reductions and benefits being cut, but that is what these companies needed to stay afloat. If he did that to the federal government, it would be a good thing.

Now, there are other reasons not to vote for romney, i personally havent made up my mind for who or even if i will vote, but if you actually look at the facts about romneys business career you will find it is a good thing for romney. It makes him uniquely qualified to be president at a time when our debt level is so comepletely ridiculous that we had our credit downgraded. Our government is in a very similar situation as a lot of the troubled businesses that romney helped turn around.



Actually it was stopped because the super pac ran out of money. Also the federal government is only bloated in defense and undercut in other area's. So yes I think we can trim the useless empire we have built. We are splurging money because of decisions made by bush. All from bush tax cuts and the wars and deregulation of wall st. and the banks. Which clinton had a big foot in on. So, Really we need to get ride of right wing aggenda's. There a joke and have never worked.

IF IT WAS SO WIDELY DISCREDITED THEN WHY DID NEWT WIN SOUTH CAROLINA PRIMARY WHERE THEY PLAYED THIS VIDEO. THEN HE RAN OUT OF MONEY. WE GOT DOWN GRADED AND WAS SAID BY S&P BY REPUBLICANS HOLDING THE HOUSE HOSTAGE. ALL YOU FACT ARE NONSENSE.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/newt-gingrich-wins-south-carolina-primary/2012/01/21/gIQAKTxBHQ_story.html

http://www.thenation.com/blog/162612/gop-causes-sp-downgrade-republican-candidates-blame-obama

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/downgrade-blame-gop-gets-it/2011/08/08/gIQA00FQ2I_blog.html

Thats the problem republicans don't work of facts. They work off feelings and religion.

 

what the, you just got done defending the video in a previous post and now you are saying that it isn't true?  And no, the ads didn't stop because the super pac ran out of money, the ads stopped when newt gingrich told them to get rid of them.  Newt won south carolina because he did well in the debates and he campaigned there the most.  It was also revealed right before the primary that mitt didn't actually win Iowa.  I'm sure the comercials did have an impact on voters that didn't bother fact checking it.  

as for the s&p downgrade, we were downgraded because the republicans and democrats couldn't come to a compromise on the DEBT.  Spending was out of control and the s&P came out and said it was downgraded because of "current level of debt, the trajectory of debt as a share of the economy, and the lack of apparent willingness of elected officials as a group to deal with the U.S. medium term fiscal outlook."

 

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2011-08-05-s-and-p-downgrades-credit_n.htm


never said the video was untrue and that last sentence says basically republicans would not compromise to pay there bills d--- a--. You are making up what you want and going with what you want to spin . I'm done with you, your no facts and all talk. done. Dems meet every term Rep. asked for and republicans backed off on there own deal and made this happen. READ THE BILLS DUDE.

your another person who acts center but is really right wing. Obama and america is right wing. You kidding me. Republicans are obstructing. That was Mitch's number one goal, make obama a one term president, which includes backing out of deals and not meeting in the middle and non stop filabusters. You have no clue whats been going on but what fox and you so called middle of the road views from right wing shows. Your full of it.



Mr Puggsly on 17 May 2012
bannedagain said:
Mr Puggsly said:
bannedagain said:

So why would you go with romney anyway if you against spending. I understand the bad taste from obama but Romney is not the answer and nor is Ron Paul. So lesser of two evils. OBAMA 

According to other graphs, Obama has spent more than all past US presidents combined. But I'm not smart enough to make sense of all that wackiness.

My biggest gripe with Obama is he creates hostility towards the rich. As if the rich paying more taxes is going to somehow solve Americas problems. Wasteful spending is the real issue. It would be great if Obama attacked the people that get far more out of the government than they put in. Like those who choose to live their life on government handouts. But Obama won't attack those people, because many of them are his base.

I fail to see how Obama is the lesser evil.

You didn't even look at the graghs long enough to even know what you are talking or looking at. the other was the defense spending, there has been many attempt to push defense cuts through congress but Republicans will not cut anything but social programs. these programs never where the problem, the tax breaks, wars, deregulation of wall st., banks where. So what now. Also obama has been going for a cut from all programs but republican won't cut defense or rich tax cuts. So what are you talking about. Do you even know any legislation that has gone or even voted on. NO YOU DON'T.

People choose to live on handouts! ya figure you would be in here soon. What a fox news quote. most people on welfare and getting your so called handouts are veterans. So good for you that you think they are chooseing to live that sh-t hole life. You think there living high on life. I fail to see why you are so uninformed.  People are on it because bush destroyed our ecconomy and where forced on it.  Just like how Romney came in and destroyed hard working americans life's at bain.  So yea after 8 years of destroying the ecconomy it's going to take as long as to fix it as it did to break it. But you use your fox news notes and get back to us.

 

there are many bills there where pushed forward for a balanced approach but since fox news didn't tell you that, you don't know that. DO ANY OF YOU READ BILLS. WOW!!!!

Actually, I was responding to this... "So why would you go with romney anyway if you against spending." I was pointing out how Obama is a big spender.

There are a lot of other things I'd rather cut over defense.

Find a graph or something that shows most people living on handouts are veterans, because I don't buy it.

Even if we gave Obama 50 years, I doubt he would fix anything. He's a big spender and panders to his base with entitlements. I don't know if Romney will be any better. I just can't imagine he would be worse.



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Mr Puggsly said:
bannedagain said:
Mr Puggsly said:
bannedagain said:

So why would you go with romney anyway if you against spending. I understand the bad taste from obama but Romney is not the answer and nor is Ron Paul. So lesser of two evils. OBAMA 

According to other graphs, Obama has spent more than all past US presidents combined. But I'm not smart enough to make sense of all that wackiness.

My biggest gripe with Obama is he creates hostility towards the rich. As if the rich paying more taxes is going to somehow solve Americas problems. Wasteful spending is the real issue. It would be great if Obama attacked the people that get far more out of the government than they put in. Like those who choose to live their life on government handouts. But Obama won't attack those people, because many of them are his base.

I fail to see how Obama is the lesser evil.

You didn't even look at the graghs long enough to even know what you are talking or looking at. the other was the defense spending, there has been many attempt to push defense cuts through congress but Republicans will not cut anything but social programs. these programs never where the problem, the tax breaks, wars, deregulation of wall st., banks where. So what now. Also obama has been going for a cut from all programs but republican won't cut defense or rich tax cuts. So what are you talking about. Do you even know any legislation that has gone or even voted on. NO YOU DON'T.

People choose to live on handouts! ya figure you would be in here soon. What a fox news quote. most people on welfare and getting your so called handouts are veterans. So good for you that you think they are chooseing to live that sh-t hole life. You think there living high on life. I fail to see why you are so uninformed.  People are on it because bush destroyed our ecconomy and where forced on it.  Just like how Romney came in and destroyed hard working americans life's at bain.  So yea after 8 years of destroying the ecconomy it's going to take as long as to fix it as it did to break it. But you use your fox news notes and get back to us.

 

there are many bills there where pushed forward for a balanced approach but since fox news didn't tell you that, you don't know that. DO ANY OF YOU READ BILLS. WOW!!!!

Actually, I was responding to this... "So why would you go with romney anyway if you against spending." I was pointing out how Obama is a big spender.

There are a lot of other things I'd rather cut over defense.

Find a graph or something that shows most people living on handouts are veterans, because I don't buy it.

Even if we gave Obama 50 years, I doubt he would fix anything. He's a big spender and panders to his base with entitlements. I don't know if Romney will be any better. I just can't imagine he would be worse.


Lets not forget Republican filibusterss killing bills non stop that would have helped the ecconomy.

I think he should have got rid of the bush tax cuts, which would have allowed me to show you a better chart and that is what pisses me off about obama.



spaceguy on 17 May 2012

This site don't accept facts and graphs bro!!!