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Kasz216 on 16 May 2012
Ssenkahdavic said:
That was one terribly put together documentary.

Its a shame that America has sunk so low, that people can actually believe garbage like that.


It's weird too... you'd think the internet would make it HARDER to fool people since all you'd need to type is "So and so" Fact Check.  To get another side of the story.

Yet oddly it seems like people intentionally avoid being informed just to stick in their little worldview.

Maybe that explains that flat earth webpage which i still swear is a parody even if people tell me otherwise.



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gergroy on 16 May 2012
Kasz216 said:
Ssenkahdavic said:
That was one terribly put together documentary.

Its a shame that America has sunk so low, that people can actually believe garbage like that.


It's weird too... you'd think the internet would make it HARDER to fool people since all you'd need to type is "So and so" Fact Check.  To get another side of the story.

Yet oddly it seems like people intentionally avoid being informed just to stick in their little worldview.

Maybe that explains that flat earth webpage which i still swear is a parody even if people tell me otherwise.

Especially in politics



WiiBox3 on 16 May 2012

A well made video, that makes you truly believe that Romney is out there to only help himself at any cost.

The question is when he will start talking about his stance on the things that matter the most and not the minor controversial issues.



Kantor on 16 May 2012
oldschoolfool said:
all politicans are liars,that's why I don't vote.

I don't see how that helps the situation.

Do everybody a favour and vote for Gary Johnson.



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gergroy on 16 May 2012
WiiBox3 said:
A well made video, that makes you truly believe that Romney is out there to only help himself at any cost.

The question is when he will start talking about his stance on the things that matter the most and not the minor controversial issues.


seriously?  well made?  sigh... this is why America is what it is...



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bannedagain on 16 May 2012
gergroy said:
WiiBox3 said:
A well made video, that makes you truly believe that Romney is out there to only help himself at any cost.

The question is when he will start talking about his stance on the things that matter the most and not the minor controversial issues.


seriously?  well made?  sigh... this is why America is what it is...

Ok what you and most here posted did not mention or even think about. Most of those people only got partial pentions or nothing because of romney. Now some get picked up and paid by the federal government. So why are we picking up romney's vulture capitilism costs by our tax dollars.  Yes a republican made this about romney.  I see the same ol right wing extremist that are usually in here. Talking trash about things but yet never have facts to back them up. Here's the deal, romney is a joke!!!!

Also if romney reduced a little profit for him self he could have saved all those companies.  This is what right wing politics has come to, reagan started it and bush pushed the envelope, we crashed. Fact. Supply side ecconomics does not work. Obama is not great because he is a moderate republican but thats not good enough for the extremist on the right wing agenda in america. We need a real progressive to lead and put you nuts back where you belong. In the south where you can be a racist, bigot and hate all you want, while you shove your noise up the 1% arse and hope they give you some scraps.

 



bannedagain on 16 May 2012
gergroy said:
This movie was put out by gingrichs super pac and was so widely discredited that they ended up dropping it after about a week. Romney isnt the most likeable guy (i was for hunstman) but his business career is a good thing. Our federal government is bloated, and romneys business career tasked him with going into troubled companies and turning them around to profitable again. This usually involved labor reductions and benefits being cut, but that is what these companies needed to stay afloat. If he did that to the federal government, it would be a good thing.

Now, there are other reasons not to vote for romney, i personally havent made up my mind for who or even if i will vote, but if you actually look at the facts about romneys business career you will find it is a good thing for romney. It makes him uniquely qualified to be president at a time when our debt level is so comepletely ridiculous that we had our credit downgraded. Our government is in a very similar situation as a lot of the troubled businesses that romney helped turn around.



Actually it was stopped because the super pac ran out of money. Also the federal government is only bloated in defense and undercut in other area's. So yes I think we can trim the useless empire we have built. We are splurging money because of decisions made by bush. All from bush tax cuts and the wars and deregulation of wall st. and the banks. Which clinton had a big foot in on. So, Really we need to get ride of right wing aggenda's. There a joke and have never worked.

IF IT WAS SO WIDELY DISCREDITED THEN WHY DID NEWT WIN SOUTH CAROLINA PRIMARY WHERE THEY PLAYED THIS VIDEO. THEN HE RAN OUT OF MONEY. WE GOT DOWN GRADED AND WAS SAID BY S&P BY REPUBLICANS HOLDING THE HOUSE HOSTAGE. ALL YOU FACT ARE NONSENSE.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/newt-gingrich-wins-south-carolina-primary/2012/01/21/gIQAKTxBHQ_story.html

http://www.thenation.com/blog/162612/gop-causes-sp-downgrade-republican-candidates-blame-obama

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/downgrade-blame-gop-gets-it/2011/08/08/gIQA00FQ2I_blog.html

Thats the problem republicans don't work of facts. They work off feelings and religion.

 



SamuelRSmith on 16 May 2012
bannedagain said:


Actually it was stopped because the super pac ran out of money. Also the federal government is only bloated in defense and undercut in other area's. So yes I think we can trim the useless empire we have built. We are splurging money because of decisions made by bush. All from bush tax cuts and the wars and deregulation of wall st. and the banks. Which clinton had a big foot in on. So, Really we need to get ride of right wing aggenda's. There a joke and have never worked.


I agree that the DoD, plus the war fund, is ridiculously expensive and needs cutting. However, it is far from the only department. In fact, I'd go insofar to argue that just about every department is overfunded.



bannedagain on 16 May 2012
SamuelRSmith said:
bannedagain said:


Actually it was stopped because the super pac ran out of money. Also the federal government is only bloated in defense and undercut in other area's. So yes I think we can trim the useless empire we have built. We are splurging money because of decisions made by bush. All from bush tax cuts and the wars and deregulation of wall st. and the banks. Which clinton had a big foot in on. So, Really we need to get ride of right wing aggenda's. There a joke and have never worked.


I agree that the DoD, plus the war fund, is ridiculously expensive and needs cutting. However, it is far from the only department. In fact, I'd go insofar to argue that just about every department is overfunded.


I would have to disagree, if we just ended the bush tax cuts we would cut off 7 trillion in the next 10 years and all of it in the next 20. most likely faster because the economy would get bigger. So the important things that protect your food, water, and many other things is really important. Yes some things can be cut but the problem istn't cutting it's a revenue problem. The rich don't pay there fair share. Mitt pays 13.9%. I pay around 30%. I'm not rich and need the money a lot more then him. There is a revenue problem, which means my tax' s  and social, good programs that are there for reason need to get cut because the rich are a like f them I want 26 house's instead. I don't  want to pay into what has made and allowed me to profit. The military, roads, cops, firefighters and many others things allow them and there products to be protected and run smoothly to the customer. none of this is cheap.  



SamuelRSmith on 16 May 2012
bannedagain said:

I would have to disagree, if we just ended the bush tax cuts we would cut off 7 trillion in the next 10 years and all of it in the next 20. most likely faster because the economy would get bigger. So the important things that protect your food, water, and many other things is really important. Yes some things can be cut but the problem istn't cutting it's a revenue problem. The rich don't pay there fair share. Mitt pays 13.9%. I pay around 30%. I'm not rich and need the money a lot more then him. There is a revenue problem, which means my tax' s  and social, good programs that are there for reason need to get cut because the rich are a like f them I want 26 house's instead. I don't  want to pay into what has made and allowed me to profit. The military, roads, cops, firefighters and many others things allow them and there products to be protected and run smoothly to the customer. none of this is cheap.  


$7 trillion over 10 years? Yeah, that's nothing compared to what needs to be raised. You do realise the unfunded liabilities on medicaid/medicare/social security are 3 times the size of world GDP, right? Bush tax cuts, or not, you can't fix that problem without cuts in those programs.

I hate this notion of "fair share", it's like some collectivist argument that we're all pawns, only existing to the benefit of the "national good". Bollocks to that. I commend those who shove their fingers up to the Government, and pay as little tax as they can get away with. Taxation is theft, we should not be supporting the thieves.

Out of that list of things you've posted, the only things that a Government should be doing is the military, and local Governments providing police/court system. And those things can easily be funded without the income tax.