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IIIIITHE1IIIII on 14 May 2012
killerzX said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

That is completely unrelated. Marriage between two people of the same sex are already happening in a few developed countries (including here where I live).

America will follow, no matter how long it may take.

how so?

you, yourself just said you want to change the definition of marriage.

so why is okay and normal for 2 people of the same sex to marry, but not 3, 5 10 or 50 people of the same sex and different sex. why is it not okay for family members to marry each other?

you are dodging the question, because the same nonlogical argument you are applying to gay marriage can also be applied to other forms of marriage, which you are irronically against.

I obviously want equality between hetero- and homosexuals. Stop bringing up bullshit.



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bluesinG on 14 May 2012

Obama (surprise, surprise).

Because I support (a) increased funding for public education (including universal preschool and reduced public university tuition), (b) reduced income inequality, (c ) increased regulation of the financial industry, (d) universal health care, and (e) marriage equality. Among other things.



Kantor on 14 May 2012
Tony_Stark said:
TadpoleJackson said:
Tony_Stark said:
Romney, Obama has not kept a single campaign promise, and has stomped on the constitution every chance he gets. He has lied to American people every chance he gets, he has proven that he hates America and everything she stands for. Romney makes be gaga, but I don't believe he is arrogant enough to usurp the constitution for political gain. Plus, we can't afford four more years of Obama.


According to politifact, Obama has kept over a third of his promises, with another fourth of them in the works. Compared to 14% broken 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/


Politifact is hardly a good source. Give me three promises he's kept. 

Very well, the first three on that page.

Extend child tax credits and marriage-penalty fixes

Create an Advanced Manufacturing Fund to invest in peer-reviewed manufacturing processes

Increase minority access to capital

Go ahead, try to convince me that he really broke those promises, or some such thing. PolitiFact is one of the best sources in the world for what you're describing.



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Kantor on 14 May 2012

I would honestly vote for Gary Johnson, even if it is a "wasted vote"

If you put a gun to my head and forced me to choose between Romney and Obama... it's a tough one, but probably Obama. Romney changes his mind every few days, wants to increase defence spending to ridiculous levels, is proposing unsustainable tax cuts without any real spending cuts (unless he's going with the Ryan budget which is basically slash everything except defence), and opposes abortion, same-sex marriage and embryonic stem cell research.

And aside from those things, they're pretty much the same.



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killerzX on 14 May 2012
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
killerzX said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

That is completely unrelated. Marriage between two people of the same sex are already happening in a few developed countries (including here where I live).

America will follow, no matter how long it may take.

how so?

you, yourself just said you want to change the definition of marriage.

so why is okay and normal for 2 people of the same sex to marry, but not 3, 5 10 or 50 people of the same sex and different sex. why is it not okay for family members to marry each other?

you are dodging the question, because the same nonlogical argument you are applying to gay marriage can also be applied to other forms of marriage, which you are irronically against.

I obviously want equality between hetero- and homosexuals. Stop bringing up bullshit.

so you support discrimination. i thought you were for marriage equality.

and is not you marrying your brother a homosexual marriage.

is not you marrying your mom a heterosexual marriage.

it seems you are being quite the hypocrit here. it also seems as though you realize that your very flawed premise and argument has been dismantled, as you can not even bring  up a logical argument on why gay marriage should be legal while the other forms of marriage i mentioned should not be.



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adriane23 on 14 May 2012

Obama, because I agree with 70% of whaty he is trying/wants to do.



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bluesinG on 14 May 2012
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
killerzX said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

That is completely unrelated. Marriage between two people of the same sex are already happening in a few developed countries (including here where I live).

America will follow, no matter how long it may take.

how so?

you, yourself just said you want to change the definition of marriage.

so why is okay and normal for 2 people of the same sex to marry, but not 3, 5 10 or 50 people of the same sex and different sex. why is it not okay for family members to marry each other?

you are dodging the question, because the same nonlogical argument you are applying to gay marriage can also be applied to other forms of marriage, which you are irronically against.

I obviously want equality between hetero- and homosexuals. Stop bringing up bullshit.

Marriage within a family is not okay because it puts children at increased risk of genetic disorders, infant mortality, infertility, and loss of immune system functioning, among other things.

Polygamy is not okay because it creates inherently unequal partnerships. For example, situations where multiple women have to share one man.

Neither of those arguments applies to same-sex marriage. Same-sex marriage is not harmful to children, or to the two adults involved.



SamuelRSmith on 14 May 2012
bluesinG said:
Obama (surprise, surprise).

Because I support (a) increased funding for public education (including universal preschool and reduced public university tuition), (b) reduced income inequality, increased regulation of banks, (d) universal health card, and (e) marriage equality. Among other things.




bluesinG on 14 May 2012
SamuelRSmith said:
bluesinG said:
Obama (surprise, surprise).

Because I support (a) increased funding for public education (including universal preschool and reduced public university tuition), (b) reduced income inequality, (c ) increased regulation of the financial industry, (d) universal health care, and (e) marriage equality. Among other things.

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Yes, OBVIOUSLY those five things would turn the US into the Soviet Union. There's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in between. Dear god.



Mr Khan on 14 May 2012
killerzX said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
killerzX said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

That is completely unrelated. Marriage between two people of the same sex are already happening in a few developed countries (including here where I live).

America will follow, no matter how long it may take.

how so?

you, yourself just said you want to change the definition of marriage.

so why is okay and normal for 2 people of the same sex to marry, but not 3, 5 10 or 50 people of the same sex and different sex. why is it not okay for family members to marry each other?

you are dodging the question, because the same nonlogical argument you are applying to gay marriage can also be applied to other forms of marriage, which you are irronically against.

I obviously want equality between hetero- and homosexuals. Stop bringing up bullshit.

so you support discrimination. i thought you were for marriage equality.

and is not you marrying your brother a homosexual marriage.

is not you marrying your mom a heterosexual marriage.

it seems you are being quite the hypocrit here. it also seems as though you realize that your very flawed premise and argument has been dismantled, as you can not even bring  up a logical argument on why gay marriage should be legal while the other forms of marriage i mentioned should not be.

Your entire argument consists of tossing out logical fallacies. You're committing one of the major no-no's of argument, here



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