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kowenicki said:
theprof00 said:
man, Sony cannot catch a break


people cant keep putting this down to bad luck....


Wanna bet on that?... Sony itself went a thundering 8 years of disaster without doing anything significant and actually effective to fix their problems, so if they couldn't see it, why should the fans?



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It certainly is raining shit on Sony at the mo.



RedInker said:
It certainly is raining shit on Sony at the mo.


Indubitably.

They have got their priorities all wrong.



kowenicki said:
theprof00 said:
man, Sony cannot catch a break

people cant keep putting this down to bad luck....

What are they supposed to do, I don't understand. Control an election? Move all their factories overseas? Somehow sell more to countries whose currencies are stronger?

EDIT: I will say that they're in this position now because of fixes that weren't implemented in the past, but I don't see how this is Kaz's fault.



theprof00 said:
kowenicki said:
theprof00 said:
man, Sony cannot catch a break

people cant keep putting this down to bad luck....

What are they supposed to do, I don't understand. Control an election? Move all their factories overseas? Somehow sell more to countries whose currencies are stronger?

TBH moving more factories overseas maybe a good idea. They could ramp up production of diferent products in different parts of the world as a way to offset the problems of fluctuating currencies. just a thought, not sure of the likleyhood or practicality of it though.



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theprof00 said:
kowenicki said:
theprof00 said:
man, Sony cannot catch a break

people cant keep putting this down to bad luck....

What are they supposed to do, I don't understand. Control an election? Move all their factories overseas? Somehow sell more to countries whose currencies are stronger?

EDIT: I will say that they're in this position now because of fixes that weren't implemented in the past, but I don't see how this is Kaz's fault.

I don't think anyone has seriously said it was Kaz' fault - he hasn't been in charge long enough to right the ship. But it's not about Sony catching a break. Sony has caught plenty of breaks in the past. But when Sony DOES catch a break, they double down and lose it all. And now it's making it difficult for them to stay afloat.



I wish people would separate Japan as a whole issues and Sony specific issues. Today and the past couple weeks have been Japan specific issues as the country is very export driven and the prospect of global growth in the coming quarters are coming down and even worse with the added rise of the yen.


Just today:

Konami corp -17.54%
Namco Bandai -9.49%
square enix -4%
Capcom -6.59%
Sega Sammy -3.15%
Tecmo Koei -3.15%
Nintendo -3.07%



kowenicki said:
Train wreck said:
I wish people would separate Japan as a whole issues and Sony specific issues. Today and the past couple weeks have been Japan specific issues as the country is very export driven and the prospect of global growth in the coming quarters are coming down and even worse with the added rise of the yen.


Just today:

Konami corp -17.54%
Namco Bandai -9.49%
square enix -4%
Capcom -6.59%
Sega Sammy -3.15%
Tecmo Koei -3.15%
Nintendo -3.07%

 

hmmm, ok... well the OP did that to extent , did you read it properly?

BUT there is simply no getting away from this....

Nikkei 225 over 5 yrs DOWN 50%

Sony over 5 yrs DOWN 80%

 

Also.. why are you comparing companies with very, very narrow interests with Sony Corp?  apples and oranges.

While your OP did "to an extent", it would have been nice to see the drop in context. Without this context, the article comes off very sensationalist.

I know I know, it's "just the facts" and "they should have done something to prevent this" etc etc, but from an objective standpoint, when I read the article in itself, it really comes off poorly for Sony. Upon the inclusion of market numbers, it seems like more of a market wide drop.

In that difference alone, criticism on the focus of the article is entirely justified.

Toshiba is down 3.2%, Panasonic is down 4.5%, fujitsu 3%, hitachi 4.88%

So even your "also" above, calling the references "apples and oranges" is just another detour.

 

What do you do again for work? Shouldn't you be at it right now? Surely your economics expertise and ability to spin should be going towards something a little more fruitful than posting negative articles about Sony.



kowenicki said:

mind your own business...

fyi its a holiday today in the UK.  ok?

and yes it is being put to very good use thank you.  I'm doing great!

Sure it might be a holiday, but you're at this every day aren't you?

I'm just very curious, not so much as what you do...but why you are so secretive about it. We have an executive from gamestop, and while he won't give his actual position, he has a fair amount of insider information on certain things that give credibility to his claim.

I mean, I imagine you could have just made something up, so why haven't you?



theprof00 said:
kowenicki said:
Train wreck said:
I wish people would separate Japan as a whole issues and Sony specific issues. Today and the past couple weeks have been Japan specific issues as the country is very export driven and the prospect of global growth in the coming quarters are coming down and even worse with the added rise of the yen.


Just today:

Konami corp -17.54%
Namco Bandai -9.49%
square enix -4%
Capcom -6.59%
Sega Sammy -3.15%
Tecmo Koei -3.15%
Nintendo -3.07%

 

hmmm, ok... well the OP did that to extent , did you read it properly?

BUT there is simply no getting away from this....

Nikkei 225 over 5 yrs DOWN 50%

Sony over 5 yrs DOWN 80%

 

Also.. why are you comparing companies with very, very narrow interests with Sony Corp?  apples and oranges.

While your OP did "to an extent", it would have been nice to see the drop in context. Without this context, the article comes off very sensationalist.

I know I know, it's "just the facts" and "they should have done something to prevent this" etc etc, but from an objective standpoint, when I read the article in itself, it really comes off poorly for Sony. Upon the inclusion of market numbers, it seems like more of a market wide drop.

In that difference alone, criticism on the focus of the article is entirely justified.

Toshiba is down 3.2%, Panasonic is down 4.5%, fujitsu 3%, hitachi 4.88%

So even your "also" above, calling the references "apples and oranges" is just another detour.

 

What do you do again for work? Shouldn't you be at it right now? Surely your economics expertise and ability to spin should be going towards something a little more fruitful than posting negative articles about Sony.


Last time kowenicki didn't even mention the 225m loss of the xbox division in his OP in MS quarterly results thread, and when I highlighted that in his thread he wrote AHAHAHAHAHAHA in caps lock to me in reply lol