I played FF X, and it was mediocre. Why should I try another entry of the series, if there exist much better RPGs.

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yep

*Throws*---(your RPG Cred)--->*out the window*

Ok, do you really have RPG-cred?

Did you ever played a pen&paper-RPG. That's the stuff the videogame-RPGs are designed after, and yet never a VG-RPG could so far deliver the same experience you have playing a pen&paper.

Did you ver play nethack? It's multiple complex features were a rich source of inspiration for many VG-RPGs. If you played nethack some time for serious, you see all the copied concepts in other games.

Did you ever played a MUD? They are great online-experiences. Good MUDs can have a higher complexity than even nethack. And the interaction with other players is rich. MUDs are the nearest you get so far to the experience of pen&paper.

If you answer these questions with no, you might consider, that you are not a RPG-fan, but a Final-Fantasy-Fan (or fan of Final-Fantasy-alike games). There is nothing bad about that. But don't tell me about RPG-cred, if you only know about one flavour of RPGs.

I play ALL RPG's

JRPG, WRPG, ERPG, URPG, DRPG ETC

i play them ALL!!!

EDIT: people, whatever you do, DON'T listen to Mnementh when it comes to RPG's from here on out..

From that sentence i feel like you probably wouldn't know what a MUD is without using wikipedia.

You sorta missed his point in that the type of RPGS you play videogame wise (well except muds) are EXTREMLY limited as far as the whole RPG genre goes.

If you watch a good pen an paper D&D game going, it's somethine else.

http://spoonyexperiment.com/2012/04/24/counter-monkey-pathfinder-live-session-1/

Muds tend to be pretty unique too so i can see why he'd seperate them, much more RP as far as RP goes.

if you are a serious RPG player then you should've owned a PS1 and PS2

you are just a noob to the game(playing RPGs) at this point if you just started playing RPG's this generation

if you owned a ps1 and ps2 while being a serious RPG player then there is no excuse to not know who Cloud and Sephiroth are ESPECIALLY given FF7's status in the RPG world

I dare somebody else to say that they dont know who Cloud and Sephiroth are while being a serious RPG player..

that's not the point though

go back and read what he said about FFX and make sure you read it all very carefully

now think about the logic in what he said

that's like me saying that i wont play another Super Mario RPG because a Final Fantasy game is better than it

or i wont play Dark Cloud because Kingdom Hearts is a better game or vice versa

I played Tales Of Symphonia and loved it but didn't really like Tales Of The Abyss too much(i thought it was mediocre) but i still LOVE the Tales Series

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a person would have to play them 1st to know..

at this point(this generation) i can see this being true though

Just because "VG RPGs" grew out of pen-and-paper RPGs doesn't mean that they are automatically inferior now that they've gone in their own direction; they're different. And just because MUDs have diverged less from the common ancestor likewise doesn't make them superior.

Really, if you have been around RPGs as long as you seem to be saying you have, and you don't know about Cloud/Sephiroth being from FF7, it's because you were ignorant of that genre when it was making its huge worldwide splash.

I don't see why, all the final fantasy games are pretty similar.

I can see someone playing one and realizing by the themes he wouldn't like the rest.  Final Fantasy games are pretty narrow in scope.  Espiecally all those after 7, they have a certain way of storytelling that tends to drive a classic RPG pro type crazy.

Most the people i know who played D&D first pretty heavily or any kind of oldschool PC RPG tend to dislike pretty much all the final fantasy games, or at the very least all of them past 6.  Usually consdiering 4 an/or 6  "ok".

Like Yatzhee from Zero Punctuation.