So you believe in one kind of man made climate change, but not another?

You realize that the principles are the same.

We've been changing local climates since ancient times. I'm not that familiar with the science, but I think it's common sense that we can change the climate. And if it's confirmed that the climate is already changing...

i do not believe anything we are currently doing has any remote significant impact on the environment.

i believe there has been enough scandal in the "scientific community" that keep purpoting a concensouis, to completely expose their myths and lies as nothing more than propaganda. which there spread because of political agendas, and because there is no money is showing there is no global warming, but there is an abundance to be made if you can convice a populace that there is, and have law makers put in policies that would directly benefit both the scientist and the law makers. and the lobyists. its a scam. and its socialist.

Over 90% of scientists agree that man-made global warming exists.

How can you think that the 90% are the ones who are scam artists, socialists, liars, and NOT the minority, which COINCIDENTALLY is supported by mainly the corporations who who make BILLIONS if they were allowed to do whatever they wanted.

No, no, that CAN'T be it. It's gotta be everyone else who is wrong.

Ever heard of Occam's razor?

Your conclusion is a world-wide conspiracy against a dozen or so corporations, supported by notions of liberalism and the systematic transfer of wealth from certain areas to a specific other group of peoples.

The opposition is: Corporations want to make more money so they are doing anything they can to avoid regulations.

Occam's razor.

I'm not 100% sure, and I could be wrong, but I think we are helping the usual cyclical temperature trend of the planet in the direction of higher degs C.

Having said that, I believe it's inconsequential. Humans will continue to be irresponsible in the face of possible danger, until the danger hits them. That's how humanity has always been, that's how it will always be. Certain cultures may or may not break that trend, but as a whole, humanity is not a responsible species.

The ultimate issue at hand is, can you be responsible as an individual? Can you consider the issue stripped of all personal bias or bias of personal ambition or agenda you may have? Are you, person, able to be a better human being?

That's when the climate trend will begin to fall back in place.

One last note: there are many things happening in the world we don't know, and those that do don't always tell us. And for some things we do know, we know little about.

that is a fictitious number, there are literaly thousands of scientists that disent from that opinion, and thousands of others, that disagree to but do not publicly say so out of fear of loosing their jobs.

guess what 30 years ago it was a "consensous" that we were headed for an ice age. where did that go.

and there has been scandal after scandal of scientist conspiring, lying, and massaging numbers, and falsely reporting numbers, that i really cant take anything they say seriously.

also, in order for us to fix and reverse course from the global warming they preach about, we would have to completely shut down our economy, revert back to pre-industrial revolution, kill 100's of millions of people, if not billions. we would have to go into a stone age to reverse course. so theres no point, we are all doomed, may as well make the best of it.

anyway, in 5, 10, 20, 50 years from now when the earth is still perfectly normal, and global warming still hasnt attacked us, we will all be laughing (at least i will) at this rediculous hysteria. but according to al gore we only have 3 years 276 days before the earth turns into a frying pan. we will see whos right.

Let's apply Occam's razor. Occam's razor states that the simplest explantion would the most likely reason, when no facts are to be found.

History proves >> Man was, is and will be the following: stupid, arrogant and self-indulgend...

With those traits how can you expect any objectif montering or reasoning from man in any field?

> > you can't.

Anybody who points to the cyclic changes in climate that occur naturally as a grounds for dismissing the notion of human driven climate change is grossly misinformed on the subject. The change that has occurred in the planet's climate over the past century is far too great to be accounted for by the natural cycle that the geological records indicate. The level of ignorance displayed by some people is truly saddening, we are dismantling an entire planet for a pile of trinkets and garbage. Once the sulphur being placed in the atmosphere by China's use of coal starts to be settle then we will see a much greater rise in global temperatures, only then may the masses take action. At this point it is far too late to combat climate change though. Oh well, at least humanity will get what it deserves.

^When what you're saying comes true, you can expect chaos the world over. I would think so.

I saw a documentary in the 80's where aliens came to earth and there was this huge conspiracy. They had these factories that didn't even produce anything. They pumped out climate changing gas. I'm not one to believe everything I see in documentaries but I think this one was the real deal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Arrival_%28film%29