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Nintendo needs to improve the graphics and art before release?

Yes, ALOT! 88 27.24%
 
Yes, kinda 49 15.17%
 
it's fine as it is 90 27.86%
 
Graphics, who cares? 76 23.53%
 
Sales are what matter, bring NSMB! 20 6.19%
 
Total:323
WiiBox3 on 23 April 2012
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
WiiBox3 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
It looks fine.

How do you think they could improve it anyways? More polygons/higher resolution textures aren't going to make it look that much better imo


Yes. It needs more polygons and textures. I want mario to looks so real that I can see the sweat rippling off of his double chin.

Here you go:

Yes and Yes. I guess all of that running and jumping has finally made Mario loose some weight. Weird, I thought he was just big boned.



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Sal.Paradise on 23 April 2012
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Also, just to remind the community:



^AND THAT'S A FUCKING HD-CONSOLE

Is that really representative of the eventual Wii U game or is it just a proof-of-concept thing?  



WiiBox3 on 23 April 2012
Deoz said:
WiiBox3 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
It looks fine.

How do you think they could improve it anyways? More polygons/higher resolution textures aren't going to make it look that much better imo


Yes. It needs more polygons and textures. I want mario to looks so real that I can see the sweat rippling off of his double chin.


This image has always creaped me out.



miz1q2w3e on 23 April 2012
DanneSandin said:
miz1q2w3e said:
It looks fine.

How do you think they could improve it anyways? More polygons/higher resolution textures aren't going to make it look that much better imo

Just a different art style - kinda how SMB3 looked different to SMB (and SMB2 even more so)

They could change it I guess, but it's all subjective so it doesn't matter, I happen to like this art style a lot for example... Besides, the OP is clearly talking about graphics, not style. Notice what he says: "The grass is junk, the resolution is junk."...etc

Though that's not to say I don't see what he means, the game doesn't 'feel' like high quality to me, the same could be said for NSMBWii...etc. But this level of visuals seems sufficient, it just isn't that kind of game.



IIIIITHE1IIIII on 23 April 2012
Sal.Paradise said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Also, just to remind the community:



^AND THAT'S A FUCKING HD-CONSOLE

Is that really representative of the eventual Wii U game or is it just a proof-of-concept thing?  

Not sure, but the title and in-game features are pretty much confirmed. And the graphics aren't likely to get any better than that.



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DanneSandin on 23 April 2012
WiiBox3 said:
DanneSandin said:
miz1q2w3e said:
It looks fine.

How do you think they could improve it anyways? More polygons/higher resolution textures aren't going to make it look that much better imo


Just a different art style - kinda how SMB3 looked different to SMB (and SMB2 even more so)


I'm not sure if changing the art style is the right direction. NSMB has a certain artstyle, like Mario Galaxy has a certain art style. If they use a different art style it wouldn't be NSMB anymore it would be Super New Super Maro Bros! ;)

Aaaaaaw hells yeah!! BRING IT!!! SNSMB!!!!



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DanneSandin on 23 April 2012
miz1q2w3e said:
DanneSandin said:
miz1q2w3e said:
It looks fine.

How do you think they could improve it anyways? More polygons/higher resolution textures aren't going to make it look that much better imo

Just a different art style - kinda how SMB3 looked different to SMB (and SMB2 even more so)

They could change it I guess, but it's all subjective so it doesn't matter, I happen to like this art style a lot for example... Besides, the OP is clearly talking about graphics, not style. Notice what he says: "The grass is junk, the resolution is junk."...etc

Though that's not to say I don't see what he means, the game doesn't 'feel' like high quality to me, the same could be said for NSMBWii...etc. But this level of visuals seems sufficient, it just isn't that kind of game.

I think he's actuallt talking about both: he has repeatedly stated that he think it feels and looks "cheesy" (<---his exact wording). I'd like to see it a bit more like Galaxy really - I thought Galaxys 2D moments were great!



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Sal.Paradise on 23 April 2012
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Sal.Paradise said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Also, just to remind the community:



^AND THAT'S A FUCKING HD-CONSOLE

Is that really representative of the eventual Wii U game or is it just a proof-of-concept thing?  

Not sure, but the title and in-game features are pretty much confirmed. And the graphics aren't likely to get any better than that.

You're probably right. Smh. 



WiiBox3 on 23 April 2012
DanneSandin said:
WiiBox3 said:
DanneSandin said:
miz1q2w3e said:
It looks fine.

How do you think they could improve it anyways? More polygons/higher resolution textures aren't going to make it look that much better imo


Just a different art style - kinda how SMB3 looked different to SMB (and SMB2 even more so)


I'm not sure if changing the art style is the right direction. NSMB has a certain artstyle, like Mario Galaxy has a certain art style. If they use a different art style it wouldn't be NSMB anymore it would be Super New Super Maro Bros! ;)

Aaaaaaw hells yeah!! BRING IT!!! SNSMB!!!!


Right!



Runa216 on 23 April 2012
SaviorX said:
Runa216 said:
It baffles me that people can't grasp a simple truth about gaming: graphics are there to present the rest of the game; that's all there is to it. Graphics help tell the story or give the game charm, they should not be the focus of the experience, but merely a pleasant cherry on top of an already good game; doubly so when it comes to Mario. We already know the story, we already understand the gameplay, there's absolutely no reason in the world to complain about perfectly charming graphics just because the game isn't utilizing the full power of the system it's on. That doesn't mean you can get away with the bare minimum, but a game like mario has always been about solid platforming and level design, no mario game (with the plausible exception of super Mario RPG) has ever been about stretching the boundaries of its respective hardware.

Frankly, if I'm going to complain about anything regarding New Super Mario Brothers 2, it's going to be about what I expect to be a shortage on levels. given the inevitably huge sales this game will get, it wouldn't kill them to take the time to add more levels, it'll still make a monstrous profit.

Graphics whores bother me.

This is not the first series though where Nintendo has gotten a pass for providing a graphical minimum.

Games like Battalion Wars were good because the graphics were actually pretty good despite the charming visuals. However,  some games like Fire Emblem (Path of Raidance & Radiant Dawn) & Animal Crossing Wii had slapdash efforts in the 3D visuals department.

I think the biggest problem from these screenshots are the jagged edges. In 2012...should we really have those? I'm chalking it up to the fact that they are screenshots as opposed to video.

Despite all that, I'm still in the camp that assumes it will be awesome regardless but be aware - Nintendo has been releasing A LOT of Mario lately. An NSMB I dont mind due to the massive hardware sales it will bring but still....they are plataeu-ing and getting a little stagnant. In the end, their software rush for the 3DS this year is a positive sign; Wii U development is now the primary focus. 2013 I expect way fewer 1st party games for the handheld, but Nintendo has already secured major 3rd party efforts in the interim.

But it's not just  a graphical minimum; based on the results of the poll here, I'm in the minority, butI happen to think the graphics are pitch-perfect for the overall tone of the game.  simple, effective...and the only ones who notice the jaggies are the graphics whores who take screenshots and look REEEEAL close! 99% of the people who play this game won't even notice the graphic infidelity.  



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