Hyruken said:
pezus said:
Hyruken said:
KillerMan said:
Hyruken said: And with that dies the whole "PS3 won 2011" thing once and for all. |
Actually no. These numers still indicate that some overshipping happened during Q2. Just not as much as most expected. Sony's shipment numbers will give us clearer picture.
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Not true. Plus it is becoming a joke now. So people are waiting now for the half year mark of this year to tell how well a console did last year? It's over. Most normal people tried to give normal reasons but some people simply choose not to accept them. It will always be a "wait for this" thing on this website.
In the report they have given various tid bits of information to give us an idea of how the others have done. They said they have been number one for 15 months straight now. If MS is down (almost 50% on same period last year) then it is obvious the rest are down too meaning the sales across the board are not as good. Plus they said sales are now at 67.2m which according to VGC figures (especially the adjustments) there are over 1.6m 360's sitting on shelves right now which i'm sure even the most biased of biased would have to admit that is probably about 400k-600k too much.
We will wait for the Sony numbers but remember what they said at the end of last year? They downcasted their forecast by a million ps3's. If again we go by vgc numbers why would they have done that as they seem to be doing very well?
As I said before and I took a lot of criticism for it, vgc numbers are unreliable and too many people try and pass them off as facts. All we have are official numbers and they are the ones that should be believed. People won't like me saying that here, but it is the truth. 360 sold more based on official numbers. It's over, people need to let it go or we will be here in 3 months time with the same people saying let's wait another 3 months...
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So 400k-600k too much on shelves according to VGC means 360 will be adjusted over PS3 for 2011 when PS3 is ahead by more than 600k?
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I meant to say at least. It could be as much as 1m undertracked if we take into account early april numbers (as pointed out below).
Plus if they are so badly out on the 360 what is to say the ps3 numbers are accurate? Didn't we have it quite high for the last shipments to only find it was lower? Obviously that is the nature of the website, sometimes it will be right, sometimes it will be over and sometimes it will be under. But from a logical point of view you would have to say it is unlikely PS3 sold more then 360 in 2011. There is far more evidence to show 360 sold more. In fact the only evidence we have that ps3 sold more is what ioi says.
But like I said in december and like I said in one of the other recent sales threads. Someone posts a number here and it is taken as gospel. Nobody dares to question it. It simply has to be true because someone said it is. And when a company releases official figures those numbers are now looked at with mistrust and doubt. Which is quite frankly stupid.
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Hahaha wow ok first thing is first, the xbox360 is not undertracked by 1 million, lol. And PS3 won 2011 get over it, xbox360 shipped more whilst sony sold more. Even without microsoft overshipping in Oct-Dec, it is already a fact that they overshipped in jan-mar 2011 as well.
Here's a fun question for you, how many extra hundred thousand star wars edition xbox360's do you think microsoft shipped into the retail channel the week before it came out??? Because whatever your answer is, you have to subtract that from microsoft's 1.4 million shipped total for the last quarter because microsoft were just stuffing the channel in advance of what was supposed to be a huge new game coming out at the start of the new financial quarter.