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Forums - Sales - WW Up! 14th April

it once was:

(ps3 + 360) * 2 = wii

it now is:

(ps3 or 360)  / 2 = wii



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benao87 said:
theprof00 said:
benao87 said:

So, all new PSP titles are on PSN?

No, that's not exactly true. What I meant is that the vita is capable of playing all psp games.

In Japan, where they have the Vita passport, they can move any psp game to vita.


Then, it's not fully backwards compatible.

EDIT: That PSV Passport is not being used by all publishers, is it?

 

This guy is being serious right now ^^



TruckOSaurus said:
VGKing said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Wii looks positively horrible right now.

Why is Japan buying more PSPs than Vitas? Also, they seem to love the 3DS, it's outselling NA which shouldn't happen considering it's a much bigger market.


Because PSP is the one getting all the games right now.


I thought PSV had backwards compatibility?

Only for digital titles. We all know the Japanese aren't exactly buying hundreds of thousands of digital PSP games....
and I'm pretty sure the most popupar PSP games aren't even available digitally.



theprof00 said:
VicViper said:

Hmm, no - even though One Piece is bigger than Mario there. But I expect Pokemon to do a million first week and push 3DS past 150k. And I expect Monster Hunter to sell 2 million first week and push 3DS by 200k units.

That's the thing about expected things, they tend to happen quite more often than unexpected ones.

No, you didn't. You think soul sacrifice is the only one able to sell Vita games?

Pokemon, Monster Hunter, Mario. Do you know any other games?

Those are called Major franchises... add DQ and there you go, all the portable big boys are on 3DS - with some minor monsters following behind - like Animal Crossing or tomodachi collection or maybe (but I doubt) Brain Age 3. Final fantasy is the only exception, but it was never huge on portables, so I don't think FFXV or something like that will be on both 3DS or Vita. And if you're square what would you choose, 8 million or 1 million systems to sell to.

It's simple... any game can sell Vitas - Unit 13 pushed 18 vitas, remember? - but with what would you prefer to count on, those games "I know", or misterious major seller game? Just look at history, all winner systems had the majority of "big boys". This time 3DS seems to have them all!

Just to finish, I also think many many things can happen to Vita (including amazing things) but the wider the gap grows the more difficult it gets for them to happen. And it's growing wildely right now. Are you really happy with those numbers or think they're normal? They're dreamcast levels, jeez! Gamecube hitted a million ages before Vita and Vita is not even dreaming of reaching it anytime soon!



ethomaz said:

NO ADJUSTMENTS THIS WEEK!!!

WHAT DID I JUST READ!

Is this a first for the year?



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

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The 3DS and HD systems are tolerable (but not great), but the Wii is bad and the Vita is horrible. The Wii at least has a few decent excuses (market saturation, end of its life, etc.) but the Vita looks a tad bit domed at this point. Here's hoping it has a killer E3.



Wow PS2 is getting beat by Gamecube.



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Conegamer said:
ethomaz said:

NO ADJUSTMENTS THIS WEEK!!!

WHAT DID I JUST READ!

Is this a first for the year?

21st Jan, 28th Jan, 31th Mar and 14th Apr.

These are the weeks with no adjustments this year .



VicViper said:
theprof00 said:
VicViper said:

Hmm, no - even though One Piece is bigger than Mario there. But I expect Pokemon to do a million first week and push 3DS past 150k. And I expect Monster Hunter to sell 2 million first week and push 3DS by 200k units.

That's the thing about expected things, they tend to happen quite more often than unexpected ones.

No, you didn't. You think soul sacrifice is the only one able to sell Vita games?

Pokemon, Monster Hunter, Mario. Do you know any other games?

Those are called Major franchises... add DQ and there you go, all the portable big boys are on 3DS - with some minor monsters following behind - like Animal Crossing or tomodachi collection or maybe (but I doubt) Brain Age 3. Final fantasy is the only exception, but it was never huge on portables, so I don't think FFXV or something like that will be on both 3DS or Vita. And if you're square what would you choose, 8 million or 1 million systems to sell.

It's simple... any game can sell Vitas - Unit 13 pushed 18 vitas, remember? - but with what would you prefer to count on, those games "I know", or misterious major seller game? Just look at history, all winner systems had the majority of "big boys". This time 3DS seems to have them all!

Was a new persona ever on Vita? How much did super robo sell on psp this week? Nearly 300k? Oh that's right.

It's like you're making the mistake that's smacking you in the face even as we speak. Look at wii with its 20 million sellers. And look at the two systems that are catching up to it. The games you're mentioning are like microcosms for the home consoles. MH=Call of duty, Mario = Mario, DQ = Wii Fit, Pokemon = wii sports, and what you're forgetting is that there's a ton of other games that sell really well and sell consoles but you are either blinded by the top sellers or perhaps blinded by something else.

There are a lot of games that are making their first appearance on a handheld with Vita, a lot of games with brand power. New hatsune miku, new super robo, new gundam, new persona, new vanillaware, and lots more (not all first appearances). I know the Japanese audience, I have Japanese friends who are on social networks talking about games all the time, I sometimes browse Japanese chan sites, I know what they like. Kingdom Hearts they want on Vita, not 3ds. MH they want on Vita, not 3ds, Idolmaster is actually the game everyone is waiting for, persona is hotly anticipated, everyone's talking about a secret Hideo game for Vita.

Anyway, you're right in saying that there is no argument without facts. And I can't provide you facts because I'm not an analyst. I'm simply someone who follows trends and popular things in japan. And here you have a list of historical sales, which someone has done all the work for you, and you say, sales will be exactly those levels and nothing more. Well, the burden is on me to prove to you that the natural increase in a popular products sequels increase. And I don't have time for that, I'll just prepare the crow, and you can chow down later.



Conegamer said:
Also, Xenoblade sales at 44k in the US for this week. We're looking at 55-60k WW this week, highly respectable!


Nice! Didn't notice it last week but it has crossed the 500k mark and with this week's sales it's close to 600k! Makes me happy!

Edit:

Happy, until NPD shatters everything next month. I'm prepared for disaster.