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green_sky on 16 April 2012

Canada has around 20% fresh water reserves of the world and 7% of that is renewable. Water shortage will be a huge factor is some of the fast growing nations. The demand for clean drinking water should be seriously looked into. People just need reason to fight. First oil and than maybe water. At least with water one can understand a bit more. Also i hate the stupid bottled water. Not completely on topic but here is some interesting facts for thy eyes.

http://www.businessinsider.com/facts-bottled-water-industry-2011-10



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Dr.Grass on 16 April 2012
haxxiy said:
Dr.Grass said:
Netyaroze said:
If its the worst drought since 1976 doesnt that mean 1976 was worse ?

So if we are entering a global water crisis (maybe) right now and not 35 years ago what is this based on ?

That there are droughts on earth and continents/countries with less water ?

Global warming should ensure that the Arctic melts and more water condensates and thus more rain falls.


LOL. More likely Europe will freeze over completely due to change of ocean currents.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/05mar_arctic/

Westerlies will still blow regardless if the gulf stream sinks mid atlantic due to the greater influx of fresh water. It's the very rotation of the Earth, instead of local climate, that makes temparate latitude landmasses have far warmer winters in ther western half than their eastern half. Compare Labrador to British Columbia, or Kamtchaka to Great Britain (of course Labrador is a bit too far since the foul weather of the Greenland icecap reaches far and wide. No wonder some of the northernmost treelines lie as far as possible from Greenland; Tamir peninsula, over 70 N).

Still you get the picture. To even think Europe will "freeze over completely" even should the GS collapse right now is a bit, well...

 

I'm sorry, WHAT.

I'm no climatologist, but in physics there is something called parity which is screaming in my ear that you are trivially wrong here.

If the axis of rotation is symmetric about the western and eastern hemispheres then that rotation cannot influence ANY difference between the two.

Seriously dude.WUT.



Dr.Grass on 16 April 2012

seriously.



thehusbo on 16 April 2012

Yep we are supposedly in drought in London. This is mainly put down to overpopulation as someone has already said. Got a hosepipe ban too.. :/ before they used to fly a helicopter over to make sure people aren't using a hose, but now they fine you if your neighbour reports you to the council.



zuvuyeay on 16 April 2012
KillerMan said:
Fresh water is one thing that Finland will never have lack of (we have almost two hundred thousand lakes....). Fresh water will be our big export good in the future!


unless china,india or russia decide to come and take it from you in the future not so good then but joking aside i am no expert in facts of where we currently are but serious water shortage and ultra expensive food would cause one hell of a war on our green planet,lets hope the science buffs are on the case



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Kasz216 on 16 April 2012
Dr.Grass said:
haxxiy said:
Dr.Grass said:
Netyaroze said:
If its the worst drought since 1976 doesnt that mean 1976 was worse ?

So if we are entering a global water crisis (maybe) right now and not 35 years ago what is this based on ?

That there are droughts on earth and continents/countries with less water ?

Global warming should ensure that the Arctic melts and more water condensates and thus more rain falls.


LOL. More likely Europe will freeze over completely due to change of ocean currents.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/05mar_arctic/

Westerlies will still blow regardless if the gulf stream sinks mid atlantic due to the greater influx of fresh water. It's the very rotation of the Earth, instead of local climate, that makes temparate latitude landmasses have far warmer winters in ther western half than their eastern half. Compare Labrador to British Columbia, or Kamtchaka to Great Britain (of course Labrador is a bit too far since the foul weather of the Greenland icecap reaches far and wide. No wonder some of the northernmost treelines lie as far as possible from Greenland; Tamir peninsula, over 70 N).

Still you get the picture. To even think Europe will "freeze over completely" even should the GS collapse right now is a bit, well...

 

I'm sorry, WHAT.

I'm no climatologist, but in physics there is something called parity which is screaming in my ear that you are trivially wrong here.

If the axis of rotation is symmetric about the western and eastern hemispheres then that rotation cannot influence ANY difference between the two.

Seriously dude.WUT.

The main problem lies in that you misread what he said.

Note he said "Compare British Colombia to Labrador"   OR "Great Brtitain to Kamachatka.".  Two examples that suggest you compare two parts of the same continent to each other.


British Colombia and Great Britain are both on the Western parts of their respective continents.  While Labrador and Kamachatka are on the Easter parts.

Due to the "westerlies" in the North,   British Columbia and Great Britian have the westerlies blow in to them from the oceans, creating a warming effect. 

By western half and eastern half he meant the western half of a continent vs the easter half of a continenet.

 

If you were to completely reverse the rotation of the Earth.  The Westerlies and Easterlies would essentially reverse... thawing out Kamatchaka and freezing GB.



Dr.Grass on 16 April 2012
Kasz216 said:
Dr.Grass said:
haxxiy said:
Dr.Grass said:
Netyaroze said:
If its the worst drought since 1976 doesnt that mean 1976 was worse ?

So if we are entering a global water crisis (maybe) right now and not 35 years ago what is this based on ?

That there are droughts on earth and continents/countries with less water ?

Global warming should ensure that the Arctic melts and more water condensates and thus more rain falls.


LOL. More likely Europe will freeze over completely due to change of ocean currents.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/05mar_arctic/

Westerlies will still blow regardless if the gulf stream sinks mid atlantic due to the greater influx of fresh water. It's the very rotation of the Earth, instead of local climate, that makes temparate latitude landmasses have far warmer winters in ther western half than their eastern half. Compare Labrador to British Columbia, or Kamtchaka to Great Britain (of course Labrador is a bit too far since the foul weather of the Greenland icecap reaches far and wide. No wonder some of the northernmost treelines lie as far as possible from Greenland; Tamir peninsula, over 70 N).

Still you get the picture. To even think Europe will "freeze over completely" even should the GS collapse right now is a bit, well...

 

I'm sorry, WHAT.

I'm no climatologist, but in physics there is something called parity which is screaming in my ear that you are trivially wrong here.

If the axis of rotation is symmetric about the western and eastern hemispheres then that rotation cannot influence ANY difference between the two.

Seriously dude.WUT.

The main problem lies in that you misread what he said.

Note he said "Compare British Colombia to Labrador"   OR "Great Brtitain to Kamachatka.".  Two examples that suggest you compare two parts of the same continent to each other.


British Colombia and Great Britain are both on the Western parts of their respective continents.  While Labrador and Kamachatka are on the Easter parts.

Due to the "westerlies" in the North,   British Columbia and Great Britian have the westerlies blow in to them from the oceans, creating a warming effect. 

By western half and eastern half he meant the western half of a continent vs the easter half of a continenet.

 

If you were to completely reverse the rotation of the Earth.  The Westerlies and Easterlies would essentially reverse... thawing out Kamatchaka and freezing GB.


Thanks for the clarification.



KillerMan on 16 April 2012
zuvuyeay said:
KillerMan said:
Fresh water is one thing that Finland will never have lack of (we have almost two hundred thousand lakes....). Fresh water will be our big export good in the future!


unless china,india or russia decide to come and take it from you in the future not so good then but joking aside i am no expert in facts of where we currently are but serious water shortage and ultra expensive food would cause one hell of a war on our green planet,lets hope the science buffs are on the case

Well I think that Russia has enough water of its own considering that its world biggest country with pretty small population density =P. In China and India there could be some serious lack of fresh water in future though.



SunofKratos on 16 April 2012

I live in suisse. And we have much rain and much water.

Thank good i live near a sea so i dont have to be worry the next years.

But to quote my teacher several years ago. Future Wars will be because of water.



Squall_Leonhart on 16 April 2012

All is well up here in Scotland! Then again it rains that often we could never have a drought lol