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your ps4 specs are wrong because ps4 will be more powerful than ps3 which has cell with 8cores@ 3.2ghz



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zero129 said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
another day.. another how powerful the WiiU is/isnt thread.

please close mods

Why would you want this closed?? cos it doesn't agree with the "Wii U is weaker then the PS3" rumors and instead shows otherwise??, even how it might be just as if not more powerful then the PS4??.


im about 90% sure im buying a WiiU anyway.. i couldnt give a flying F__k how powerful it is. 



Soundwave said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
freebs2 said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
Azamondeps3 said:
Is it only me who think that ps3 and xbox360 effects are still good enough im happy to stay with it for a little bit longer

I want bigger, more interactive worlds, better AI, better physics and better looking games. So while I'm happy with my PS3, I still really want a next-gen system.

The ps3/X360 are already capable enough to have better AI, and more interactive worlds. The problem is developers just prefer to spend their budget un cutscenes.

Seriously? Look at BF3. It looks vastly better on PC, has much bigger maps and has almost 3 times as many people and vehicles online. Not to mention DX11. And with the next advancements of engines like frostbite 2 there will be even more things that consoles aren't capable of. Budget spending had nothing to do with this, it's all about the hardware. 


Yeah but Nintendo doesn't make games that would require that much tech, nor would they probably even greenlight a game that cost that much to make.

So Wii U even if it is in the ballpark of a 360 will be enough for Nintendo and probably quite a few Japanese devs too. Look at all the studios closing down as is, there are going to be many companies that can't afford to make high end next-gen projects.

So I think we're headed for an industry split in this regard.

Nintendo is only 1 developer. If Nintendo want to win the third parties back they are going to have to compete with PS4 and nextbox. I don't really care about the Wii U though, I'm expecting and wanting the advancements to happen on microsonys next consoles the most.

As for the cost of development, we're moving closer and closer to an almost exclusively digital age, and when all developers need to do is copy some files to a database, they don't need a rich publisher to distribute the game and take a cut from each sale. This means higher profit margins for devs, more money going towards the game and much cheaper distribution. The only cost left is advertising which will be covered by digital stores (look at steam) and the increased profit margin of the previous game. AAA games may still need publishers, but we'll still get plenty of non-AAA games through digital distribution.



there's literally no chance



freebs2 said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

Seriously? Look at BF3. It looks vastly better on PC, has much bigger maps and has almost 3 times as many people and vehicles online. Not to mention DX11. And with the next advancements of engines like frostbite 2 there will be even more things that consoles aren't capable of. Budget spending had nothing to do with this, it's all about the hardware. 

That's because your talking about a PC game ported (dumbed down) to be played on consoles, if look at games specifically developed for consoles, like MAG, you have already a lot of players online.

What I mean is if developers really focused on world interctivity and AI, we would have alredy seen some better enhancemts on actual consoles. Most likely on Ps4/X720 we will see better looking games and better looking cutscenes while AI and interactivity will remain more or less the same.

If a PC game needs to be dumbed down to the point where gameplay changes to be playable on a console, it is an issue worth fixing. MAG has incredibly limited interactivity whereas BF3 has a powerful destruction engine, vehicles, much better animations and it looks and sounds a lot better. So sure, if you dumb a game down so much you can get many people online, this isn't a good thing. 

Interactivity largely depends on what the hardware is capable of as seen in BF3. If you want fully destructible environments, bigger and more detailed worlds, better physics, smarter NPCs and better looking games you need better hardware. There really isn't any other way around it.



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freebs2 said:

That's because your talking about a PC game ported (dumbed down) to be played on consoles, if look at games specifically developed for consoles, like MAG, you have already a lot of players online.

What I mean is if developers really focused on world interctivity and AI, we would have alredy seen some better enhancemts on actual consoles. Most likely on Ps4/X720 we will see better looking games and better looking cutscenes while AI and interactivity will remain more or less the same.


That is the exact opposite of what all the developers are talking about for the future of games. AI and complexity will be where all the advancements are made. Graphics are reaching a pinnacle point where advancements won't matter as much from one gen to the next. The real battle ground is in AI and the other aspects of game design.



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

Honestly I think in the higher end market, Microsoft is going to drive Sony out in the next 5-6 years by creating a better piece of hardware, which in turn will make them the console of choice for "hardcore" players.

Sony can't afford to price match Microsoft anymore, and Microsoft knows this. A couple of years of losses upfront on the 720 and they can bury Sony for good. We're starting to hear some reports that seem to indicate MS is "going for it" at the urging of some developers (probably Epic and some others). So I could see a situation where the 720 has say 4GB of RAM + a beefier GPU versus a Sony Orbis that has 2GB RAM/weaker GPU.

Nintendo will retain a good portion of the lower end/"normal person" (lol) market, but MS will make inroads here too with Kinect.



Rafux said:
Yep this makes sense, WiiU will be more powerful than a system that will be released a year later.


Wii was released nearly a year later after the 360.



Soundwave said:

Honestly I think in the higher end market, Microsoft is going to drive Sony out in the next 5-6 years by creating a better piece of hardware, which in turn will make them the console of choice for "hardcore" players.

Sony can't afford to price match Microsoft anymore, and Microsoft knows this. A couple of years of losses upfront on the 720 and they can bury Sony for good. We're starting to hear some reports that seem to indicate MS is "going for it" at the urging of some developers (probably Epic and some others). So I could see a situation where the 720 has say 4GB of RAM + a beefier GPU versus a Sony Orbis that has 2GB RAM/weaker GPU.

Nintendo will retain a good portion of the lower end/"normal person" (lol) market, but MS will make inroads here too with Kinect.


You might want to rewrite your theory. Wishful thinking isn't the same as predicting.



Chark said:
freebs2 said:

That's because your talking about a PC game ported (dumbed down) to be played on consoles, if look at games specifically developed for consoles, like MAG, you have already a lot of players online.

What I mean is if developers really focused on world interctivity and AI, we would have alredy seen some better enhancemts on actual consoles. Most likely on Ps4/X720 we will see better looking games and better looking cutscenes while AI and interactivity will remain more or less the same.


That is the exact opposite of what all the developers are talking about for the future of games. AI and complexity will be where all the advancements are made. Graphics are reaching a pinnacle point where advancements won't matter as much from one gen to the next. The real battle ground is in AI and the other aspects of game design.

Well, if that's tue than ok. Bring it on.