Long quote trains are annoying. Is it so hard to just delete other posts? Really?

As for this thread and the question at hand, it depends on bundles. Actual, hard bundles of the game itself. Not a piece of card with a number on it. A videogame.

I think both are gonna see bundles this Year... Reach is gonna end up higher.

I very much doubt it Halo Reach has most likely sold over 10 million by now if you count those digital bundles which vgchartz should count. So no I very much doubt it can catch up.I don't get how people can say yes it can.

Halo 4 will outsell them anyways (individually of course, not combined) so topic is moot imho.

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When you count digital sales and bundling Halo Reach is probably at about 11 million units in total.

If I remember correctly Fable III sold roughly 1.5 million units due to the 2011 holiday bundle, of which a digital copy of Halo: Reach was also bundled. So 8.89 + 1.50 = 10.39m, and that's not even including other digital sales so it's probably around 11 million. I bet GT5 won't even come within 1.5 million of that number. I think Halo: Reach will go on to sell 11.75-12.75m lifetime, although we'll never really know because we can't track digital copies sold. For GT5 I'd predict 8.50-9.25m lifetime.

I suppose it won't sell as well as previous GT games because it's widely considered disappointing and it now has a strong main competitor in Forza Motorsport 2/3/4 which has probably swayed a fair amount of previous GT fans like myself due to its higher quality, in my opinion.

Simple answer: No.

There's also the simply fact that the PS3 is not the market leader, its still in last place and the installed base is tiny compared to the PS2 at the same point in the lifecycle. All in all, the PS3 will end up selling a little over half of what the PS2 did lifetime (its even still selling). Hardly in favor of GT5 moving numbers anywhere near Halo Reach.

I think the basic premise that Halo:Reach is the premier 360 exclusive is in error. The premier exclusive to date is Halo 3, and it may become Halo 4. Though with Halo 4 coming out so close to the launch of the Nextbox I wonder if it'll fall short of Halo 3. H4 should still outsell Reach though.

Why does everyone bring up digital sales? It's completely pointless. First of all GT5 isn't selling digital so it's pointless comparing the two and Halo Reach was bundled the crap out of after it's release with many people on this site stating that GT will be much more bundled than Halo Reach will ever be and look what happened now... if people just want to make up facts and add # that we don't know of than get out of here!

The point is if we're adding digital sales for Halo Reach we should also subtract the Halo Reach bundle sales where it most likely got a big chuck of its sales from. Based on previous studies every big Xbox 360 game gets bundled the crap out of "at least in North America" less than a year after it's release and some PS3 titles (GT5 hardly got bundled in North America) as well. Therefore only making games like those bigger!

So at least say your predicting before you start making up facts and adding 1-2 million randomly for Reach and stating GT5 is overtracked with no evidence. 

if we include digital then halo would be much higher