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If Iran has to give up its nukes, then the US should give up theirs as well.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Right, Iran is going to hit the USA with its imaginary nuclear arsenal.

They'll never be allowed to get anywhere near acquiring that arsenal. Israel will stop them even if the USA continues to delay and hope for the best.



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Jumpin said:
If Iran has to give up its nukes, then the US should give up theirs as well.

The USA is, at least nominally, a democracy, which has signed the non-proliferation treaty, is not engaged in any wars against a nation, and serves to gain nothing by nuclear bombing its neighbours or, indeed, any other country. Furthermore, it has possessed nuclear weaponry for the last 68 years and has not dropped a nuclear bomb for the last 67. The last time it dropped an atomic bomb, it was engaged in a war which could not possibly be ended any other way (without a great deal of bloodshed on both sides).

Iran is a rogue state which has openly threatened the existence of other states, a dictatorship known for renegade actions, which holds strong grudges against many of its neighbours and feels that its existence is threatened.

There is an enormous difference between the two countries.



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Kantor said:
Jumpin said:
If Iran has to give up its nukes, then the US should give up theirs as well.

The USA is, at least nominally, a democracy, which has signed the non-proliferation treaty, is not engaged in any wars against a nation, and serves to gain nothing by nuclear bombing its neighbours or, indeed, any other country. Furthermore, it has possessed nuclear weaponry for the last 68 years and has not dropped a nuclear bomb for the last 67. The last time it dropped an atomic bomb, it was engaged in a war which could not possibly be ended any other way (without a great deal of bloodshed on both sides).

Iran is a rogue state which has openly threatened the existence of other states, a dictatorship known for renegade actions, which holds strong grudges against many of its neighbours and feels that its existence is threatened.

There is an enormous difference between the two countries.

im guessing your american.



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yum123 said:
Kantor said:
Jumpin said:
If Iran has to give up its nukes, then the US should give up theirs as well.

The USA is, at least nominally, a democracy, which has signed the non-proliferation treaty, is not engaged in any wars against a nation, and serves to gain nothing by nuclear bombing its neighbours or, indeed, any other country. Furthermore, it has possessed nuclear weaponry for the last 68 years and has not dropped a nuclear bomb for the last 67. The last time it dropped an atomic bomb, it was engaged in a war which could not possibly be ended any other way (without a great deal of bloodshed on both sides).

Iran is a rogue state which has openly threatened the existence of other states, a dictatorship known for renegade actions, which holds strong grudges against many of its neighbours and feels that its existence is threatened.

There is an enormous difference between the two countries.

im guessing your american.

British. I'm not a huge fan of America, but I seem to have more faith in it than most Americans.

It's a hell of a lot better than Iran.



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Kantor said:
Jumpin said:
If Iran has to give up its nukes, then the US should give up theirs as well.

The USA is, at least nominally, a democracy, which has signed the non-proliferation treaty, is not engaged in any wars against a nation, and serves to gain nothing by nuclear bombing its neighbours or, indeed, any other country. Furthermore, it has possessed nuclear weaponry for the last 68 years and has not dropped a nuclear bomb for the last 67. The last time it dropped an atomic bomb, it was engaged in a war which could not possibly be ended any other way (without a great deal of bloodshed on both sides).

Iran is a rogue state which has openly threatened the existence of other states, a dictatorship known for renegade actions, which holds strong grudges against many of its neighbours and feels that its existence is threatened.

There is an enormous difference between the two countries.

No one else has actually dropped a bomb either, and Iran is also a democracy with free elections and do you think the people there are all oppressed citizens that would just love to side with America??? Their western hate is due to the issue of Israel (and US support of them) and the disgusting imperialism issued by the European nations that led to the Western backed dictator Pahlavi responsible for the Iran-Iraq war and the massacre of many Iranians until the Iranian Revolution.



Kantor said:
Jumpin said:
If Iran has to give up its nukes, then the US should give up theirs as well.

The USA is, at least nominally, a democracy, which has signed the non-proliferation treaty, is not engaged in any wars against a nation, and serves to gain nothing by nuclear bombing its neighbours or, indeed, any other country. Furthermore, it has possessed nuclear weaponry for the last 68 years and has not dropped a nuclear bomb for the last 67. The last time it dropped an atomic bomb, it was engaged in a war which could not possibly be ended any other way (without a great deal of bloodshed on both sides).

Iran is a rogue state which has openly threatened the existence of other states, a dictatorship known for renegade actions, which holds strong grudges against many of its neighbours and feels that its existence is threatened.

There is an enormous difference between the two countries.


The united states is at war with two nations. And has fought numerous wars of aggresion over the past fifty years. Iran is at war with no one and has fought only one defensive war against Iraq. 

Iran doesn't gain anything from nuking its neighbors besides being destroyed by Israels arsenel (which has seconde strike abilities) 

America is the only country to drop a bomb on another country, so thats kind of a hard spin you're trying to make. 

Iran's existenec is threatened, or have you missed the Israeli/ American war drums? 

Also its rogue government exists because of backlash against the unites states installed dictator. 

The best counter example is India/Pakistan which were at each others throats and fought numerous wars before they both became armed- after which they never went to war again because they both know where it would lead. A nuclear armed Iran would lead to a check on Israeli aggresion in the Middle East and a more stable diplomatic Middle East as a whole. 



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A2B24R246 said:
Kantor said:
Jumpin said:
If Iran has to give up its nukes, then the US should give up theirs as well.

The USA is, at least nominally, a democracy, which has signed the non-proliferation treaty, is not engaged in any wars against a nation, and serves to gain nothing by nuclear bombing its neighbours or, indeed, any other country. Furthermore, it has possessed nuclear weaponry for the last 68 years and has not dropped a nuclear bomb for the last 67. The last time it dropped an atomic bomb, it was engaged in a war which could not possibly be ended any other way (without a great deal of bloodshed on both sides).

Iran is a rogue state which has openly threatened the existence of other states, a dictatorship known for renegade actions, which holds strong grudges against many of its neighbours and feels that its existence is threatened.

There is an enormous difference between the two countries.

No one else has actually dropped a bomb either, and Iran is also a democracy with free elections and do you think the people there are all oppressed citizens that would just love to side with America??? Their western hate is due to the issue of Israel (and US support of them) and the disgusting imperialism issued by the European nations that led to the Western backed dictator Pahlavi responsible for the Iran-Iraq war and the massacre of many Iranians until the Iranian Revolution.


Iran is a theocracy with a powerful non-elected head of state



leatherhat said:
Kantor said:
Jumpin said:
If Iran has to give up its nukes, then the US should give up theirs as well.

The USA is, at least nominally, a democracy, which has signed the non-proliferation treaty, is not engaged in any wars against a nation, and serves to gain nothing by nuclear bombing its neighbours or, indeed, any other country. Furthermore, it has possessed nuclear weaponry for the last 68 years and has not dropped a nuclear bomb for the last 67. The last time it dropped an atomic bomb, it was engaged in a war which could not possibly be ended any other way (without a great deal of bloodshed on both sides).

Iran is a rogue state which has openly threatened the existence of other states, a dictatorship known for renegade actions, which holds strong grudges against many of its neighbours and feels that its existence is threatened.

There is an enormous difference between the two countries.

The best counter example is India/Pakistan which were at each others throats and fought numerous wars before they both became armed- after which they never went to war again because they both know where it would lead. A nuclear armed Iran would lead to a check on Israeli aggresion in the Middle East and a more stable diplomatic Middle East as a whole. 

That's not actually true.  On a few levels.

Pakistan and India both declared nuclear weapons in 1998.

The last Indian/Pakistan war was 1999.

Before that the last war was 1971.  So it was 27 years of peace before nuclear weapons, less then 1 year of peace afterwords.  (well declared).

Additionally, one of the USA's biggest gripes with Pakistan is how they put all of their military forces on the border with India in an esclation that leaves little room to go with rounding up anti-american terrorists hiding in the country.

What caused the long peace was how devestating a victory India achvied in 1971.    Pakistan lost like half it's population, part of it's economy, a third of it's armed forces.  There wasn't war for so long simply because Pakistan was beaten.

The nuclear tests of both nations actually could be said to have risen tensions between them and in part led to the 1999 conflict.