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pezus said:
Ail said:
haxxiy said:
Ail said:
I can't wait for the fans protests at the end of season 3 when they will ask HBO for a new ending.......

Everybody knows that GRRM will die before finishing ASOIAF and HBO will end the series with a ghost kid revealing it creates long winters and the Others so people don't get killed by zombies and low temperatures.


Well I wasn't even going for that, although to be honest Jordan dying is probably the best thing that happened to the Wheel of time as Brandon Sanderson is actually a much better writer than Jordan. ( go read Warbreaker or Elantris !)

The difference though is that Jordan knew ahead of time how the serie was going to end, Martin doesn't have a clue what he's going to write in the next book. I mean he only took 5 years to write book 5. I hope there is a clause in his contract with HBO that forces him to have the next book delivered by a certain date to ensure the show goes on as schedule. And I hope he gets harsch cash penalty for not making those dates..

 

Anyway, that wasn't the point of my original posts, originally book 3 was the closure of the first part of the serie and has some kind of endings itself that will shock a lot of viewers. Book 3 is actually where I stopped reading the serie too, when Martin starts respecting his readers more and delivers books in a timely fashion I will go back to it............

Oh and the Malazan book of the Fallen >> a game of Thrones. There, I said it !!!!!!!

I don't think I've heard about that one. What is it about?


Another pretty good fantasy series if you don't mind even more POV changes and extreme magic. Overall I'd agree it's better than ASOIAF, specially since it's finished, altough the characters aren't that well characterized.



 

 

 

 

 

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Not a whole lot happened. I can imagine that anybody who hadn't read the books, or hadn't watched Season 1 (or even had watched Season 1 a long time ago) would be thoroughly confused because I'm pretty sure half of the characters weren't even named.

Other than that, some good coverage of all of the main characters, and the scene was set well. Hopefully there will be more action in later episodes.

Of course, none of the really brilliant stuff will happen until next season, when we move away from all of this happy triumphant stuff and get into reality.



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Ail said:
pezus said:
Ail said:
haxxiy said:
Ail said:
I can't wait for the fans protests at the end of season 3 when they will ask HBO for a new ending.......

Everybody knows that GRRM will die before finishing ASOIAF and HBO will end the series with a ghost kid revealing it creates long winters and the Others so people don't get killed by zombies and low temperatures.


Well I wasn't even going for that, although to be honest Jordan dying is probably the best thing that happened to the Wheel of time as Brandon Sanderson is actually a much better writer than Jordan. ( go read Warbreaker or Elantris !)

The difference though is that Jordan knew ahead of time how the serie was going to end, Martin doesn't have a clue what he's going to write in the next book. I mean he only took 5 years to write book 5. I hope there is a clause in his contract with HBO that forces him to have the next book delivered by a certain date to ensure the show goes on as schedule. And I hope he gets harsch cash penalty for not making those dates..

 

Anyway, that wasn't the point of my original posts, originally book 3 was the closure of the first part of the serie and has some kind of endings itself that will shock a lot of viewers. Book 3 is actually where I stopped reading the serie too, when Martin starts respecting his readers more and delivers books in a timely fashion I will go back to it............

Oh and the Malazan book of the Fallen >> a game of Thrones. There, I said it !!!!!!!

I don't think I've heard about that one. What is it about?


Another epic fantasy serie.

The author is Steven Erikson. It's a 10 book serie and book 10 came out last year, it is massive, most of the books are over 900 pages... Basically he released the 10 books over the last 12 years or so...

Check here for more information :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malazan_Book_of_the_Fallen

It reads that way too unfortunately. His characterisation is also terrible for the vast majority of characters. Only a few of the characters are truly fleshed out and he does go into some bizzare and long trains of thought.

However, it's a very different type of fantasy to ASOIAF. Still very enjoyable but the comparison is a weird one considerring how different they are from each other. Currently reading Stonewielder by Ian C.Esslemont to bring back some of the Malazan memories

Also, did anyone notice the Malazan reference in Mass Effect 3? It specifically mentions Bridgeburners!



Scoobes said:
Ail said:
pezus said:
Ail said:
haxxiy said:
Ail said:
I can't wait for the fans protests at the end of season 3 when they will ask HBO for a new ending.......

Everybody knows that GRRM will die before finishing ASOIAF and HBO will end the series with a ghost kid revealing it creates long winters and the Others so people don't get killed by zombies and low temperatures.


Well I wasn't even going for that, although to be honest Jordan dying is probably the best thing that happened to the Wheel of time as Brandon Sanderson is actually a much better writer than Jordan. ( go read Warbreaker or Elantris !)

The difference though is that Jordan knew ahead of time how the serie was going to end, Martin doesn't have a clue what he's going to write in the next book. I mean he only took 5 years to write book 5. I hope there is a clause in his contract with HBO that forces him to have the next book delivered by a certain date to ensure the show goes on as schedule. And I hope he gets harsch cash penalty for not making those dates..

 

Anyway, that wasn't the point of my original posts, originally book 3 was the closure of the first part of the serie and has some kind of endings itself that will shock a lot of viewers. Book 3 is actually where I stopped reading the serie too, when Martin starts respecting his readers more and delivers books in a timely fashion I will go back to it............

Oh and the Malazan book of the Fallen >> a game of Thrones. There, I said it !!!!!!!

I don't think I've heard about that one. What is it about?


Another epic fantasy serie.

The author is Steven Erikson. It's a 10 book serie and book 10 came out last year, it is massive, most of the books are over 900 pages... Basically he released the 10 books over the last 12 years or so...

Check here for more information :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malazan_Book_of_the_Fallen

It reads that way too unfortunately. His characterisation is also terrible for the vast majority of characters. Only a few of the characters are truly fleshed out and he does go into some bizzare and long trains of thought.

However, it's a very different type of fantasy to ASOIAF. Still very enjoyable but the comparison is a weird one considerring how different they are from each other. Currently reading Stonewielder by Ian C.Esslemont to bring back some of the Malazan memories

Also, did anyone notice the Malazan reference in Mass Effect 3? It specifically mentions Bridgeburners!


The books don't necessary follow each others and you do not follow the same characters in every book although the last book brings everything back together...

And the villains are not necessary who you thought they would be at the start of the serie...

But the world is a lot more complex than anything Georges R.R. Martin ever wrote.

And I be darn if a book like Deadhouse Gates or Memories of Ice aren't some of my favorites of all time...

 

The Chains of Dogs and Coltaine shall be forever remembered !!!!!! Glory to the 7th !

if you think the US marines are tough, go read about the Malazan marines..



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Ail said:

 when Martin starts respecting his readers more and delivers books in a timely fashion I will go back to it............

This kind of egotistic entitlement toward someone else's work is utterly disgusting.



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zero129 said:

OH!! xD hahahaha, stupid me lol :D . I still can't find the books in any of my local stores, i think im going to have to order them from amazon :) .


Strongly recommended.  You'll get much better prices from there.  That's where I got mine, and I received them, mint condition, two days after I placed my order. =D



pezus said:
zero129 said:
pezus said:
zero129 said:
Hynad said:
zero129 said:

OH!! xD hahahaha, stupid me lol :D . I still can't find the books in any of my local stores, i think im going to have to order them from amazon :) .


Strongly recommended.  You'll get much better prices from there.  That's where I got mine, and I received them, mint condition, two days after I placed my order. =D

Im trying to order them now, but im a bit confused with the naming etc, i thought the was only 3 books?, how many books are there??

They are 5 so far, but number 3 is sometimes split into two books because it's so long. So it goes like this:

Game of Thrones

Clash of Kings

Storm of Swords 1: Steel and Snow

Storm of Swords 2: Blood and Gold

Feast for Crows

Dance with Dragons

Thanks very much pezus :D .

So i need this http://www.amazon.com/Books-Thrones-Feast-Crows-Swords/dp/0345529057/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1333498248&sr=8-6

And this http://www.amazon.com/Dance-Dragons-Song-Fire-Book/dp/0553801473/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1333498248&sr=8-8 for the complete set??

Yeah, that's about it. But you could go for a cheaper version of Dance With Dragons by buying the paperback version. But it looks like it's not available there?

The more convenient alternative for Storm of Swords would be to get the hardcover version, which includes both Steel and Snow and Blood and Gold in one single volume (Although many paperback editions now do the same). I personally prefer to have both parts in a single volume myself, as this is how they were intended to be in the first place, and it just looks better in the bookshelf. =P



I saw the second episode on Wedensday and this Redhead is freaking me out :S she is so unbeliveable sexy. The episode was pretty espacially the last scene alltough this incest stuff is really annoying, who was this girl who gave Greyjoy the ride?



Ail said:
Scoobes said:
Ail said:
pezus said:
Ail said:
haxxiy said:
Ail said:
I can't wait for the fans protests at the end of season 3 when they will ask HBO for a new ending.......

Everybody knows that GRRM will die before finishing ASOIAF and HBO will end the series with a ghost kid revealing it creates long winters and the Others so people don't get killed by zombies and low temperatures.


Well I wasn't even going for that, although to be honest Jordan dying is probably the best thing that happened to the Wheel of time as Brandon Sanderson is actually a much better writer than Jordan. ( go read Warbreaker or Elantris !)

The difference though is that Jordan knew ahead of time how the serie was going to end, Martin doesn't have a clue what he's going to write in the next book. I mean he only took 5 years to write book 5. I hope there is a clause in his contract with HBO that forces him to have the next book delivered by a certain date to ensure the show goes on as schedule. And I hope he gets harsch cash penalty for not making those dates..

 

Anyway, that wasn't the point of my original posts, originally book 3 was the closure of the first part of the serie and has some kind of endings itself that will shock a lot of viewers. Book 3 is actually where I stopped reading the serie too, when Martin starts respecting his readers more and delivers books in a timely fashion I will go back to it............

Oh and the Malazan book of the Fallen >> a game of Thrones. There, I said it !!!!!!!

I don't think I've heard about that one. What is it about?


Another epic fantasy serie.

The author is Steven Erikson. It's a 10 book serie and book 10 came out last year, it is massive, most of the books are over 900 pages... Basically he released the 10 books over the last 12 years or so...

Check here for more information :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malazan_Book_of_the_Fallen

It reads that way too unfortunately. His characterisation is also terrible for the vast majority of characters. Only a few of the characters are truly fleshed out and he does go into some bizzare and long trains of thought.

However, it's a very different type of fantasy to ASOIAF. Still very enjoyable but the comparison is a weird one considerring how different they are from each other. Currently reading Stonewielder by Ian C.Esslemont to bring back some of the Malazan memories

Also, did anyone notice the Malazan reference in Mass Effect 3? It specifically mentions Bridgeburners!


The books don't necessary follow each others and you do not follow the same characters in every book although the last book brings everything back together...

And the villains are not necessary who you thought they would be at the start of the serie...

But the world is a lot more complex than anything Georges R.R. Martin ever wrote.

And I be darn if a book like Deadhouse Gates or Memories of Ice aren't some of my favorites of all time...

 

The Chains of Dogs and Coltaine shall be forever remembered !!!!!! Glory to the 7th !

if you think the US marines are tough, go read about the Malazan marines..

That doesn't really excuse the poor characterisation and the way he can write entire pages yet still leave you having to fill in massive blanks due to a lack of physical description. I don't mind that to some degree but on occasions he gets caught up and forgets the reader. It's also not particularly good when I can read the entire series and still find I understand less about some of the semi-main characters than an equivalent character in a few chapters of a GRRM book. It doesn't help that there are so many characters throughout the series, yet the vast majority have the same personality. There are a few standouts but for the most part he may as well call them "Malazan marine x, y, z". 

Anyway, you just picked the two major stand out books in the series. The series has its ups and downs though the Chain of Dogs was a fantastic segment and some of the best writing he did in the entire series. 

Also, the world is very in depth and complex, but that's not that surprising considerring the Malazan world is the creation of two people with few limits whilst ASOAF is loosely based on our own history. Like I said, very different styles that aren't really comparable other than the books in both series are epic door stopping tomes.



pezus said:
zero129 said:
Hynad said:
zero129 said:

OH!! xD hahahaha, stupid me lol :D . I still can't find the books in any of my local stores, i think im going to have to order them from amazon :) .


Strongly recommended.  You'll get much better prices from there.  That's where I got mine, and I received them, mint condition, two days after I placed my order. =D

Im trying to order them now, but im a bit confused with the naming etc, i thought the was only 3 books?, how many books are there??

They are 5 so far, but number 3 is sometimes split into two books because it's so long. So it goes like this:

Game of Thrones

Clash of Kings

Storm of Swords 1: Steel and Snow

Storm of Swords 2: Blood and Gold

Feast for Crows

Dance with Dragons

Is it true, the last two books sucked?