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DarthVolod said:

Post became kind of long, but bear with me ...

You are all fixating way too much on the terrible ending which is blinding everyone to the fact that the entirety of Mass Effect 3 was awful (at least when compared to the second and especially to the first game).

The way I see it is that Mass Effect 1 was a near masterpiece that had a game-play style divided into 2/3 RPG and 1/ 3 shooter. This worked quite well, and nearly all the elements of the game worked perfectly to make a spectacular experience.

At some point (after Bioware was scooped up by EA), the series was pushed into a totally new direction, and the previous 2/3 rpg and 1/3 shooter ratio was flipped on its head, and cover based shooting became the new focus of the franchise as was seen with the arrival of Mass Effect 2.

In fairness, Mass Effect 2 did have some compelling characters and story elements, but it remains a vastly inferior effort to Mass Effect 1 precisely because it moved away from what made the first game so special, a great sci-fi adventure story mixed with a fun RPG shooter hybrid gameplay style.  No longer were players hunting down rogue specters, learning about the history of the Mass Effect Universe, and experiencing revelations about other great threats to galactic peace, but instead Mass Effect 2 foced Shephard into the role of recruiting and doing favors and errands for his rogue’s gallery of supporting characters in order to go on a suicide mission which, in hindsight, was ultimately pointless when one considers the ending of Mass Effect 3.

We went from a fun and rich universe in Mass Effect 1 that players wanted to explore to errand boy duty in Mass Effect 2, and, lastly, errand boy duty 2.0 in Mass Effect 3 where Shephard has to prostrate him/herself in order to please a bunch of random aliens to fight against the formerly mysterious, and now totally generic Reaper threat.

Even more dramatic than the dumbing down of the plot was the transformation of the series from RPG/shooter hybrid to a Gears of War knock-off. While Mass Effect 2 effectively lobotomized the game play of one by removing armor customization, weapon customization, and 90% of the abilities and talents, Mass Effect 3 finished what Mass Effect 2 started by including a boring multiplayer mode that plays like Gears of War horde mode minus the fun, and further stripping the series of its RPG roots by adding in new game mode that let you entirely skip dialogue choices (not that the choices effect much anymore) while also removing player choice from virtually every aspect of the game. The player no longer plays a "role" as they would in an RPG, as Commander Shephard has effectively become the silent protagonist from every Call of Duty game that can simply watch while having no impact on the story taking place around them. RPGs were always about player choice, and Mass Effect has pretty much done away with that. It wasn't just the ending of that nullified the events of the previous games as pretty much every choice made in the previous Mass Effect games had no impact on any part of Mass Effect 3. 

At this point, I really don’t see any reason left to play Mass Effect anymore. The series had an identity crisis, and it was decided by the powers that be at EA that the series was going to become an ultra-casual third person shooter. The sad part is that the guys in charge of this franchise never seemed to realize that it was the story and RPG portion that made Mass Effect 1 so memorable, and since that is now gone we are just left with a boring and lifeless third person shooter. As much as I hate Gears of War and Uncharted, I would much rather play either one of those games over Mass Effect at this point. Neither Gears nor Uncharted are all that fun, but at least they are not in denial about being mindless third person shooters, and they do what they do better than Mass Effect does.

In closing, don’t trust reviewers that gave this game its undeserved 93/100 metacritic score since they are all actually less qualified than me and you when it comes to writing reviews of videogames. We don’t get gift baskets, add revenue, and free copies of games from video game publishers so at the very least we are going to be far more impartial than the reviews of videogame “journalists.” Trust your own opinion, and the opinions of reputable people who don’t have relationships with video game publishers that would lead them to bias. I would put more faith in the user reviews on metacritic than I ever would in the so called professional reviews. Don't trust the professional reviewers in regards to this (and really any other game), and don't put so much emphasis on the crap ending as nothing in Mass Effect 3 deserves your admiration.


very good post

OT: the ending was pretty "lack-luster" I thought it was an "okay" way to end the series :p

I really don't see why the game should be de-ducted  points just because of they ending... I mean you enjoyed  ME 1-3(or 2&3 for PS3 owners) and then didn't enjoy the last 10-15 minutes means the games is garbage? i seriously don't know what people were expecting to happen in the last I'd say 1 hour of gameplay...all the decisions you made between 1&2 played their course during the the events of mass efffect 3 like such as killing/saving wrex, saved the council, and who survived the "suicide mission" in ME2. Granted the decisions you made didn't have a huge effect other than depending on your war assets and the deliverance of how the mission played out. but I was pleased to see how what became of the characters of ME2(specailly Jacob)

my complaints to ME3 are

#1 like the person I quoted, the RPG elements didn't weren't there, though boiware tried, at the end of the day, you'd still be doing the shoot from cover/ dash and melle someone in the face.(maybe because I played soldier so much that it carried over when playing other carrers)

#2 the character roster took a DEEP hit, ME2 had a great cast a of characters all with different backrounds/stories which you could have deep conversations with, it broke my heart that NO ONE from ME2 joins you(I don't consider Garrus and Tali ME2 characters since they were there from the beginning) and most of the conversations between you crew was just one text line chatter.

#3 THERE WAS NO EXPLORATION!!! in ME1 & ME 2 you could search for days scanning planets(ME2) and doing  non-story line missions and had several different planets to visit. In ME3 the only place you visit is the Citadel!!! which was scalled down from what it was in ME2(imo) and the rest of your exploration was scanning planets for war assests and money....

at the end of the day I'd give ME3 and 8.5(I though ME2 did a better job)



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Yeah a bad ending means you should award a game a 0.



GaaraD.Dragon said:
yo_john117 said:
GaaraD.Dragon said:
sales2099 said:
Whiny fans think the score should change.

Objective reviewers stick by their guns. The game is a masterpiece.


Sure BUT as the thread starter said, it is more than reasonable to point out that a lot of the reviewers did NOT finish the entire game at the time they wrote the review.

I have a really hard time believing that. I could see a few reviewers doing that but the majority couldn't have not finished the game.

Let's take a random day one review for closer examination.

"Its a solid game for me, with minor flaws. The flaws thats in the game is overshadowed by the great story. The game I think has more RPG elements than the 2:nd instalment but not as much as the first one. But it enough i think."

As i said I am not a Mass Effect expert but i just cannot call a story that ends with generic sci fy vagueness great !

Im not saying it deserves a 0 /10 or that it negates all the hard work put by Bioware either but when it comes to a story and decision driven game it's a big point minus.

That doesn't prove anything though, especially since your's and his opinions can differ. 

The difference between reviewers and most people who played ME3 is the reviewers take into account the whole game and don't fixate on one spot that many feel is bad (not all find it even bad mind you)



Carl2291 said:
They cant change the review scores, not after all the money they got to give those scores.

To certain other people - If you were eating a plate of food and its the best thing youve ever tasted... But as youre just about to take your last bite, the chef tells you he spit in it just before serving, would you still say it deserves a 10/10? Just because you enjoyed it until the end?

Some people do not realize that no matter how great things may have been throughout the course of the game, the ending, if it is as bad as it seems, could easily drag a score down. Beginnings and endings are two of the most important parts of a story and one bad ending can leave a sour taste after what was otherwise a fantastic experience.

It is that lasting impression that gets scored and not the journey to get to that ending. If the ending makes you feel like you got shortchanged, well, then everything before that ending is meaningless.

 

I know that I wouldn't rate a book 9/10 if I found the ending to that book to be absolutely unsatisfying. Considering this series is very story driven, it should be held to these standards.

Then we can get into the argument that the choices you made meant nothing in the end, which also should cause points to drop since the gameplay clearing wasn't what was promised to you.

 

 

I have not played this game mind you, but this is just how I have interpreted this whole situation. If my interpretation is correct, then yes, the game would in fact be scored too high, but we all know the almighty dollar dictates these reviews.



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Mass Effect 1 was praised for being an RPG with scifi setting. Mass Effect series shifted towards another third person shooter in ME2/3 and left its RPG elements behind to appeal to established shooter fan base.

A 9/10 game may only deserve an 8.5/10 instead of 9's and 9.5/10 from most critical game reviewers.
AAA games are reviewed favourably by game reviewers and inflate scores by 5% to 10% higher than the games deserve, High review scores are used to promote game to attract more sales.

Uncharted and Gears of War and other big series probably only deserved 8.5 or 9's instead of 9.5's. There will always be haters and lovers/fans of game franchises.



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I came into the series with low expectations, so maybe I won't be as disappointed with the ending as a lot of people seem to be.

Enjoy ME3 for what it is. A really long and awesome and glitchy TPS.



I am the Playstation Avenger.

   

value =4/10
gameplay = 7/10

total 5.5/10



Because of ME3, I'm mostly on the bioware forums where my voice can at least be heard in terms of possibly fixing not just the ending... but all the plot holes etc. However, I agree. I'm still doing another playthru, because it's still fun to play those first 45 whatever hours (I play on hardcore or insane, and go to every planet, so it takes a bit longer for me). And I don't need them to change the ending, just add in more explanations, different endings, etc that would actually reflect our decisions and type of character we played as. But yeah, even though I would put the first 98% of the game as still less than the first two, (first 2 are 100% for me, so this would be a 95), the end knocks it down to an 8/10 overall at the worst). But yeah, many of those reviews came in within a couple hours of release, and no way they played it all, and 1/10 is just dumb.



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And I also agree that you can't trust all those "professional" reviewers as half of them never even played the first two, or any RPGs, and compared it more to the likes of CoD unfortunately.



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I despise the ending, too, but that doesn't ruin 30 hours of greatness and a fantastic multiplayer segment. It definitely deserves a metascore in the mid-90s. It's the user reviews which are ridiculously low because of DLC and the ending which are completely unfair, because most of them likely haven't played the game (it takes a great deal of willpower to finish a game that you would rate below a 6/10)



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