It's possible that Zimmerman instigated it, but far from clear that he did. If what Zimmerman claims is true - and so far his injuries seem to be consistent with his story - then Martin was the one who flipped and attacked him. Despite all the uproar, nobody was there so nobody knows.

Aye, but if the attack occurred at the end of the confrontation after Zimmermann had been pursuing him, then wouldn't Treyvon actually be under the protection of Stand Your Ground? I've got this shady looking kinda hispanic guy chasing me, he may be threatening my life :P

I am going through a lot of personal stuff, including a need for surgery again, an a car that doesn't work (hundreds of dollars in repair work needed, and the money isn't here now).  And there is a lot more stuff, with a narrow hope of getting stuff published in a magazine, and hoping that acts as a break.  Life gets reduced to doing game designs and trying to find an edge anywhere.

Well, I had seen what happened after the shooting of the congresswoman and how it turned into a political football to score points.  And now, there is the shooting of Trayvon Martin, which has a lot of issues associated with it, from stand your ground, to a rash of burglaries in a neighborhood, to it now being a rallying protest point of the moment, and more.  

What is seen in this?  Like with the shooting of the congreswoman, it would be a good time for people to stop and assess where things are, and maybe their values.  Is it that?  No it isn't.  What it is, is a place to position oneself and score points for one's cause.  A death is turned into a political tool.  Considering the issues I am looking at, I really don't want to think on this now, and engage with people at random.  People don't seem interested in finding common ground, just justify what they know is right.  I need to keep reminding myself of this to back away.  Life's too hard to end up trying to go this route.

As a parting shot, I swear there are people who would think a Hunger Games reality show, with real deaths would be an awesome thing to have, particularly with those you disagree with being the contestants.  

I don't think so. According to Zimmerman, he lost sight of Martin for about a minute. Then Martin came up from behind him, and they spoke briefly before Martin asked if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no, and Martin said, "Now you do," and proceeded to jump him.

Dangerous if true. I would suppose the phone records wouldn't indicate what his girlfriend actually told him to do, or what he had been planning?

And odd that these facts are emerging only now. You would think Zimmermann would have made it clear that he had been jumped at the scene, to better reinforce the idea that he was being substantively threatened right off the bat?

He did, I imagine. That's probably why he wasn't arrested, although the police did confiscate his gun. I'm not sure why his side of the story is just now coming out, but it sounds like Zimmerman's lawyer was making the media rounds today and the cops finally released some information that seems to - for now, at least - corroborate elements of his story.

Which would show that the speed of the justice system needs to better-adapt to the speed of the mass-media if they want to protect the innocent. No way he's getting a fair trial at this point, because of all the protests and such that have already ocurred...

40 something shootings on the south side of Chicago during St. Patrick's weekend alone.

One kid is shot by someone who may be sort of white, kind of. Almost.

Also, I would like to see some pics of the 6'3" 17 year old Trayvon, instead of the 5'3" or so 13/14 year old Trayvon.