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Turkish on 22 March 2012
kowenicki said:
Turkish said:
kowenicki said:
logic56 said:
kowenicki said:
logic56 said:
considering the ps2 is approaching 12 years on the market and still going I think it's no doubt the ps3 will pass wii life time


what do PS2 sales have to do with PS3 sales?

they arent correlated in any way.

 

if Sony supported the ps2 for 12 years there's nothing to say they can't do the same with the ps3


...and how does that answer my question?  PS2 sales and PS3 sales are not correlated.  

PS2 sales after 12 years are 1500 per week in japan... mostly replacement purchases.  PS3 wont have the same install base for replacement purchases so what do you expect PS3 weekly sales to be in 2018?

Who says they're replacement purchases? If history repeats itself, the PS3 will sell long after PS4 comes out, even PSP is selling after Vita's launch. Thats whats always been with Sony consoles.

common sense does...


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ethomaz on 22 March 2012
kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:

Yeap... I guess PS3 will outsell the Wii in Japan... the $199 price point will do that (2016???).

But seems like the PS3 have the chance to outsell the Wii even in WW because I expect PS3 selling over 100 million in 2016... the numbers will be close.

Anyway... CONGRATS.


ever heard of inflation...

its already happened.

the PS2 fell to $199 in 2002

that is now the equivalent of $254

 

The PS2 fell to $199 in 2002... and PS3? I'm wating that happen.

The PS3 today in Japan costs ~$300 (24,980 yen)... so the next price cut will put it in $250... and the next $199.



ethomaz on 22 March 2012
kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:
kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:

Yeap... I guess PS3 will outsell the Wii in Japan... the $199 price point will do that (2016???).

But seems like the PS3 have the chance to outsell the Wii even in WW because I expect PS3 selling over 100 million in 2016... the numbers will be close.

Anyway... CONGRATS.


ever heard of inflation...

its already happened.

the PS2 fell to $199 in 2002

that is now the equivalent of $254

 

The PS2 fell to $199 in 2002... and PS3? I'm wating that happen.

so you are ignoring what i said or you didnt understand it?

And you ignoring what I'm saying too... the PS3 is expensive in Japan yet.



ethomaz on 22 March 2012

kowenicki said:

Give me Japanese slaes for the next 6 years please.  2012 to 2017.

This year: 1.6-1.8m / LT ~9.5m (can be more if price cut happen this year in Japan)
2013: 1.2-.1.5m / LT ~11m (can be more if price cut happen this year in Japan)
2014: 0.9-1.1m / LT ~12m
2015: 0.5-0.8m / LT ~13.0m
2016: 0.5m /  LT ~13.5m
2017: 0.5m / LT ~14.0m



ethomaz on 22 March 2012
RolStoppable said:
ethomaz said:
kowenicki said:

so you are ignoring what i said or you didnt understand it?

And you ignoring what I'm saying too... the PS3 is expensive in Japan yet.

You just said that the PS3 is 25,000 yen in Japan. That's the price the Wii started at and it was said to be cheap.

Launch price with PS3 releasing in the same month at 59,800 yen (yeah... the Wii price looks cheap)... PS3 already have five years in the market... 25,000 yen is heavly expensive for a 5 year old console.

PSVita was launched with the same price (25,000 yen)... it's a hell of expensive.



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MARCUSDJACKSON on 22 March 2012

hmmmmmmmmm, theres food for thought.

Well it seems COD has become popular in Japan, so that could help. another monster hunter could help.

it really depends on the life of the console, games support and late adopters, if that applies to the Japanese market.

look at it like this. you can ruffly say every month PS3 sells about 50-80k in Japan, so PS3 sells arounds 160k every 2 months.

multiply that by 11 (1,760,000) , and that's likely what PS3 will sell by yr.'s end from Feb to Dec.. i didn't factor Jan. in because that seems to be the month Japan buys there systems, and i'm not to sure how that played out.

so if PS3 can get enough software support, when the 8th gen starts, and stays around 20k a wk, yr. looking at another 8 yr.'s not factoring in games that could help sell more hardware.

when you factor those games in, i'd say 6 yr's.



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logic56 on 22 March 2012
kowenicki said:
logic56 said:
kowenicki said:
Turkish said:
kowenicki said:
logic56 said:
kowenicki said:
logic56 said:
considering the ps2 is approaching 12 years on the market and still going I think it's no doubt the ps3 will pass wii life time


what do PS2 sales have to do with PS3 sales?

they arent correlated in any way.

 

if Sony supported the ps2 for 12 years there's nothing to say they can't do the same with the ps3


...and how does that answer my question?  PS2 sales and PS3 sales are not correlated.  

PS2 sales after 12 years are 1500 per week in japan... mostly replacement purchases.  PS3 wont have the same install base for replacement purchases so what do you expect PS3 weekly sales to be in 2018?

Who says they're replacement purchases? If history repeats itself, the PS3 will sell long after PS4 comes out, even PSP is selling after Vita's launch. Thats whats always been with Sony consoles.

common sense does...

oh so you made it up, gotcha

no I used my common sense.

answer my question.... what do you expect PS3 weekly sales to be during 2018 in Japan?  while you are at it predict the annual sales for 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018.  Just so i can see your rationale for this prediction.

enough to be supported for that long is how much



Salnax on 22 March 2012

Honestly, Dragon Quest X could theoretically push the Wii past 14 million. Let's say it does nothing to help Wii sales, and it dies in 2013. That's 13.5 million units sold. So the PS3 would have to sell 5.5 million units a year. Problem is, it only sold 1.5 million in 2011, and will likely continue to decline as the 8th generation begins. Still, it can make it, but it will be close.



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HokageTenshi on 22 March 2012
Turkish said:

No one noticed? I predict around a healthy 9.5 million at the end of the year. Wii will likely settle around 13 million for good.

When will the PS3 pass Wii in Japan?


when Slimmer and cheaper PS3 model release, i believe it will pass Wii total sales in japan much faster, trust me... ^^



ethomaz on 22 March 2012
RolStoppable said:
ethomaz said:

Launch price... PS3 already have five years in the market... 25,000 yen is heavly expensive for a 5 year old console.

PSVita was launched with the same price (25,000 yen)... it's a hell of expensive.

But by that logic, 20,000 yen would be very expensive for a six year old console, so the next price cut won't really help the PS3 either.

PS3 needs a price cut in Japan... every business article I read about Japan and the people I talk there said the same thing... PS3 is expensive in Japan... that's a FACT not my opinion.

People in Japan still is waiting the PSThree (slimmer/cheaper/colder/etc).