Achievement/Trophy system are great but when the achievement/trophy become more important then enjoying the game then there where the problem at.

Refer to the post above this one. Jay520 c'mon, 80% of a trophy list is just asking you to play the game.

you get trophies for learning mandatory moves or doing mandatory things. With 10% being repetitive task like beat 100 of this enemy and the last 10% offering a actual challenge.

Some people do get carried away with it (like Hakoom and the top trophy "hunters" in the world), but I feel it is a way for many gamers to get more out of their games. I know I wouldn't have played some games on harder difficulties if it wasn't for trophies, plus I have gotten a lot more enjoyment out of games with them.

Not every single game has lists like that. I don't believe Uncharted has any trophies for just playing through the game (other than beating the game on different difficulties), and Disgaea 3 doesn't have trophies that require anything with the main story (Disgaea 4 only has like 3-4 trophies associated with the main story).

I think half the reason I bought a Vita was cause it meant I could double my trophey earning :P.

It's not something you can judge about a whole group of fans. There are people who take the trophey thing wayyyyyyy to far, I've however enjoyed having a reason to do the stuff in games I'd otherwise never have done. Like playng Uncharted on Crushing I'd never have bothered with, but I actually really enjoy doing it a second time over with the challenge the developers intended. The Mirrors Edge time trials are something else like that too.

I think the idea of them being 'achievement' is silly, but it'd nice to have a sort of chart of all the games you've ever played, how much you played them, what you did etc. I view my trophey list like i do my last.fm music chart, this awesome backlogue of all the music or games I've played and how much I dug them.

I actually  count the dlc exclusion from the plat trophy as a positive since I dont buy many dlcs and dont think the plat should be withheld until the dlcs are completed. In fact, i  would be pretty happy if the dlc trophies didnt automatically load onto your ps3 whenever you start a new game. 

Personally speaking I prefer the trophy system and the reason is basically the platinum. The platinum is the trophy I always go for when getting trophies for a game - I dont really care about the Level or the amount of points I have but I generally like comparing platinums with friends cause thats the only way of telling how many games a person has fully completed. 

Anyway, not sure why so many people in this thread dislike trophies/achievements - they are fun to try and get, they add longevity and a greater aspect to a game, some games already had achievement/trophy-like systems before these came with this gen,  as an addiction they are much more harmless than many others and I dont know why some people hate them so much.

I play a lot pf PS3 but i have never purposely gone out of my way to acquire trophies. I don't concern myself with them at all, the whole idea of a trophy system just never appealed to me. My friend on the other hand, he tries to platinum every game he gets. I guess I don't mind the system since it doesn't effect my experience and others seem t like it.

Level 10 btw :p

I would say the numbers of achievement hunters and trophy hunters are equal, but trophy hunters are very obsessive when it comes to platinum trophies, I would know, I'm one of them, although I'm not as bad as I used to be, I was extremely obsessed with trophies a little over a year ago.

I like the trophy/achievement system, lets get that out of the way first.  Second off, I think both sides are equally addicted.

Its all about how you get trophies.  I usually play a game through once to play the game, and if I felt the game was really good I'll go through again for a second/third/etc. time, but puropselly hunting down trophies.

EDIT:  ALSO, I don't get how people can hate on things (such as trophies/achievements) that only ADD to the game.  You don't HAVE to get them.  It's like someone getting a piece of cake, and then getting pissed off because a cherry came on top of it for free.  How about you just, you know, take the cherry off.