Barozi said:
Chark said:
It's my opinion that the Trophy system is better than the achievement system by design. The achievement points can seem a little diluted, 5p here, 15p there. Just seems kind of inflated. The trophy system counts up individual trophy's by quality, bronze to silver to etc. So you can see your results clearly. Not to mention they add up to attribute to an overall gamer level, which Level 18 is more identifying that 358315p. Another great thing is the ability to compare trophys among friends, that's not just comparing totals but individual games against friends. They both do essentially the same thing, but with the trophy system you have better interaction and therefore can be more fun to participate in, which is probably why it seems such a big deal on forums, because trophy's can be analyzed nicely.
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achievement system also has different kinds of quality. The higher the score, the higher the difficulty. At least it should be this way, though of course there also exist extremely easy silver trophies and hard bronze trophies etc. thus also being inflated.
Gamer Level is just as meaningless as total points. Higher usually only means that one plays more games and not necessarily harder games. Besides 10.000G is better than 5.000G and Level 10 is better than Level 5. Where's the difference ?
I especially don't get the last point, since that is exactly what you can do with achievements too.
Only real difference is the platinum trophy which has also positive and negative attributes.
Negative is (or "can be") that it only counts the original trophy set and you can still get it even though there might be DLC achievements left. Positive is that you can easily see how many games you have completed. On the other hand the Xbox console also shows you how many games you have fully completed (with DLC).
To me a platinum trophy or a 1000/1000G gives me the exact same proud feeling.
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I actually count the dlc exclusion from the plat trophy as a positive since I dont buy many dlcs and dont think the plat should be withheld until the dlcs are completed. In fact, i would be pretty happy if the dlc trophies didnt automatically load onto your ps3 whenever you start a new game.
Personally speaking I prefer the trophy system and the reason is basically the platinum. The platinum is the trophy I always go for when getting trophies for a game - I dont really care about the Level or the amount of points I have but I generally like comparing platinums with friends cause thats the only way of telling how many games a person has fully completed.
Anyway, not sure why so many people in this thread dislike trophies/achievements - they are fun to try and get, they add longevity and a greater aspect to a game, some games already had achievement/trophy-like systems before these came with this gen, as an addiction they are much more harmless than many others and I dont know why some people hate them so much.
