By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Politics - The American Right and Anti-Intellectualism

mrstickball said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:
A tax that makes the American Right pay more is simply defined by them as theft.
Unless a tax redistributes the proceeds into their pockets, the rich American Right will keep on crying their crocodile tears.
Huge corporate welfare and bailouts went straight towards helping the American Right keep their huge fortunes.


I don't believe those bailouts went to "the American Right"

Many of the banks had Democratic connections. If you want the data, I will gladly pull it up for you.

Just a heads up: judging by the weirdly dogmatic writing style and the tendency to make completely contradictory posts in the same thread (usually one from a comically right wing point of view and then another from a comically left wing POV), I am 99% sure this is numonex's alt.



Around the Network
Mr Khan said:

despite the fact that the Japanese tax bureau has more of an ability to suck funds straight out of your bank account than the IRS).

Guess that explains why they like cash so much!



badgenome said:
Mr Khan said:

despite the fact that the Japanese tax bureau has more of an ability to suck funds straight out of your bank account than the IRS).

Guess that explains why they like cash so much!

Nah, that affinity is historical. You generally see it more in older Japanese (which given the aging of the population means you see it a good deal), from the time before instantaneous bank transfers. They also just seem to be a cash-happy society, despite how well-wired they are technologically. In no other country would i expect to put an equivalent to a 10,000 Yen bill into a vending machine and ever expect the machine to actually be able to give me change for that.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Jumpin said:
SamuelRSmith said:
It is the (radical) left's belief that they can redesign society based on their intellectualism. It would make sense that "intellectuals" (or, people who think that they're smarter than what they are) follow this ideal.

It comes as no surprise to me that the left tend to make arguments based on "intellectualism", while the right's arguments are more philosophical.

Of course, I'm making sweeping statements, here, but you get what I mean.

In order to be intellectual, you have to be philosophical.


Hence the quotation marks.



Mr Khan said:
badgenome said:
Mr Khan said:

Given America's reliance on the consumption sector, Keynesian ideas are all the more important: people with less income buy things, whereas excess income is saved or invested.

Isn't that a problem? Japan has traditionally been a nation of savers (though that's less the case now) and while it's caused some problems (which their  government exacerbated in masterful fashion), I think it's still far preferable to being a nation of overconsumers. It's peculiar to me that people only seem to fret about consumption in that environmentalist "the Earth is running out of resources" way, but never really in a "is an economy that's based on people consuming more than they produce really anything more than a giant bubble?" way.

I don't agree with Keynesian theory, but Krugman was a lot saner before Bush caused him to flip his lid. From time to time I like to amuse myself by comparing his writings as an economist in the '90s to his screeds in the Times today. I even made a drinking game out of it: I read one of his articles and then I drink until I pass out.

Cultural preferences do factor in, as Japan is a nation of savers (and even more problematically, they like to Save in straight cash, a Japanese version of what in America is literally mattress money, so they don't even provide money for the banks to lend. And the Japanese are, for all their obedience to rules, fairly good at dodging the income tax in a way that the tax-averse Americans wouldn't dream of, despite the fact that the Japanese tax bureau has more of an ability to suck funds straight out of your bank account than the IRS).

Wait a minute, since when have the Japanese been savers?

Theirs is such a consumer culture that people live at home to save money for accessories and games, and putting off marriage until mid thirties because of a predominant mindset of, I want to focus on myself for a while. From what I've seen, the culture is so spend-crazy that it's actually causing the aging of the population. Where is this saving? Because I've not seen it.

Mr.Kahn, I mean, you are living in Japan! Is this really what you're seeing? A friend of mine was at Temple and he said all people do in Japan is shop. He went over there wearing 15 dollar t-shirts, and came back with a penchant for 400$ dress shoes, and hundred dollar bowties.



Around the Network

Reading about american politics is always fun, because it is so different from europen politics. And opinions seem to be so polarized when you don't have a broad spectrum of parties to choose from.

I always found it funny that you guys keep using the term "left" when talking about the liberal party, even though you only have right (liberals) and far, far right (republicans). I know they're called left because they are the left wing of the availible political parties, but it's fun to imagine what say, a social democratic party would be called if one was ever formed xD

Does it even exist any other parties than the liberals and the republicans? I mean, there used to be a wiggs party before, right? Would the american system support more than two parties if more were ever to be formed?



I LOVE ICELAND!

theprof00 said:

Wait a minute, since when have the Japanese been savers?

They always were, until the past 15 years or so. From 1997 to 2007 their average household savings went from something like 11% of income to just 2%, but historically it has looked like this:



Dark_Lord_2008 said:

Republicans usually come from more affluent family backgrounds than Democrats. Education in the US costs a lot of money and people raised in a wealthy affluent family can afford to send their kids to college. Democrats have to rely upon college scholarships or work hard at High school to get into college. Thank god for the access to student loans but they must be paid back at a later date. Without an adequate education, employment prospects are limited.

EDIT: Oops wrong post.  Either way... that's actually the opposite of true.  Democratic families tend to have a higher average income.



badgenome said:
theprof00 said:

Wait a minute, since when have the Japanese been savers?

They always were, until the past 15 years or so. From 1997 to 2007 their average household savings went from something like 11% of income to just 2%, but historically it has looked like this:

lol I saw that edit old man. I often lose track of how long it's been since the millenium too.



this thread interests me because before Bush, the right and the left were not at each others's throats like this. Republicans weren't seen as ignorant or stupid, Religion was just kinda THERE rather than being the forefront of a campaign, and....

Fuck bush. he ruined the right.



My Console Library:

PS5, Switch, XSX

PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, WiiU, Wii, GCN, N64 SNES, XBO, 360

3DS, DS, GBA, Vita, PSP, Android