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How much of your personality is controlled by yourself?

All of it 7 12.07%
 
Most of it 16 27.59%
 
Some of it 29 50.00%
 
None of it 4 6.90%
 
What is this? 2 3.45%
 
Total:58
Slimebeast said:
It's the eternal question of free will. I don't know if we have free will but if we do it is small (and supernatural since there is no natural explanation for free will).

The dilemma with the "no true free will" question is that it's nearly impossible for a normal sane person to live as if he had no free will, because you would never have reason to question your own actions, you can just do whatever you want or feel like and think "this was meant to happen just so and I couldn't have done it in any other way, so I won't take any responsibility or guilt for anything I might have done wrong". Try it, it's almost impossible to act and live like you have no free will.

That's because that leads to not caring and that's not a good survival trait. Humans that feel they have control over their life will outlive, outbreed those that don't. Of course another big question is, what's the point of conciousness at all as a survival trait if you don't have any control. Is it merely a by product of the inner workings of your brain to facilitate communication.



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SvennoJ said:
Slimebeast said:
It's the eternal question of free will. I don't know if we have free will but if we do it is small (and supernatural since there is no natural explanation for free will).

The dilemma with the "no true free will" question is that it's nearly impossible for a normal sane person to live as if he had no free will, because you would never have reason to question your own actions, you can just do whatever you want or feel like and think "this was meant to happen just so and I couldn't have done it in any other way, so I won't take any responsibility or guilt for anything I might have done wrong". Try it, it's almost impossible to act and live like you have no free will.

That's because that leads to not caring and that's not a good survival trait. Humans that feel they have control over their life will outlive, outbreed those that don't. Of course another big question is, what's the point of conciousness at all as a survival trait if you don't have any control. Is it merely a by product of the inner workings of your brain to facilitate communication.

Yes, that's another very interesting question, the purpose of consciousness. I definitely don't think it's a byproduct though.



With me, absolutely no control - although my personality has changed. I used to be full of passion and loved to get involved; now I'm somehow arrogant and apathetic at the same time (I know they conflict).

For example, I used to be quite liberal, but now I disagree with quite a lot of liberal (and conservative) ideas. When I was liberal I used to get into heated debates and argue my position. Now I just don't care, I will say what I think but I wont get into a debate (It's often a waste of energy unless the other person has a really good point).

As you can guess this does not do me any favours when talking to new people. I genuinely do want people to like me though, so I try not to come across as arrogant or apathetic. This is more easily said than done, I always seem to revert back no matter how interested and engaging I try to be. I suppose I can't keep it up because I know that it's not how I am.

So to sum things up my personality changes naturally, but I have no chance if I want to change it by design.



I'm actually a psychiatrist with a sub-specialty in personality disorders. It's a nice thread, keep up the discussion.



kain_kusanagi said:

I believe the more intelligent you are the more control you have over yourself. That's why you usually see a dumb ass redneck with no shirt getting arrested on Cops for smacking their girlfriend for doing his meth. Smart people know better. The more intelligent you are, the more respect you have for yourself and the more introspective you are about how your personality develops. Intelligent people are also much more aware of how they are perceived by others and make an effort to be better today then they were yesterday. Less intelligent people tend to not give a shit about anything so long as they "gets what they're due".

Besides, our personality mainly develops in adolescence. Sure there are happy little kids and troubled little kids, but during adolescences we start to find things interesting on a more intellectual level. Some kids like trains, others like airplanes. Some like sports, others like reading. It's not a decision we make, it's what we find interested and what evokes emotion that drives us to want to learn more about things.

After adolescences, when we are adults, after we have already developed our likes and dislikes, we then have control and responsibility for your personality.

This. Great post.



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DareDareCaro said:
I'm actually a psychiatrist with a sub-specialty in personality disorders. It's a nice thread, keep up the discussion.


What's your opinion on the matter?

simply no, otherwise you'd be able to control sudden impulses, spure of the moment decisions.

you know it's wrong but you go on a killing spree. how do you make that change, nowing you don't want to, but thinking it's the only way to get whatever you seek (your agenda) done.

being able to change your personality, would mean changing everything about you, making you a completely different person.

repeat offenders wouldn't commit the same crime twice.

Jay!!! do you know how many different news stories that would contradic everything you posted that you said in the op? even the things you said you believe in the op.

you can't change your personality, but you can change the decisions you make.

trolls and fanboys would cease to exsist, if they could control how they feel about the competition. how you feel, and the the way you look at things are also apart of your personality, so there is no possible way to completely change your personality. it seemply doesn't work like that.

if you can change everything about yourself, from the way you dress to how you put on your shoess, then yes, you can change your personality. it's apart of you, so deal with it.

your personality changes with age, but that's not something you control.



Jay520 said:
DareDareCaro said:
I'm actually a psychiatrist with a sub-specialty in personality disorders. It's a nice thread, keep up the discussion.


What's your opinion on the matter?


My opinion cannot be translate in a post coz there's way too much stuff in that question, I'm not on my first language and I'm on leisure time... lol

Simplistic view:

We cannot control our personality, we are our personality.

Our personality is about 20% genetics, 80% environment influence.  We "sculpt" ourself experience by experience, moment by moment.  Our personality will determine how we cope in life, how we manage emotions in real-time.  We do not control our personality, it will evolve no matter what for the best or the worst.  However, we can make choices and we can learn to control emotions.



MARCUSDJACKSON said:
simply no, otherwise you'd be able to control sudden impulses, spure of the moment decisions.

you know it's wrong but you go on a killing spree. how do you make that change, nowing you don't want to, but thinking it's the only way to get whatever you seek (your agenda) done.

being able to change your personality, would mean changing everything about you, making you a completely different person.

repeat offenders wouldn't commit the same crime twice.

Jay!!! do you know how many different news stories that would contradic everything you posted that you said in the op? even the things you said you believe in the op.

you can't change your personality, but you can change the decisions you make.

trolls and fanboys would cease to exsist, if they could control how they feel about the competition. how you feel, and the the way you look at things are also apart of your personality, so there is no possible way to completely change your personality. it seemply doesn't work like that.

if you can change everything about yourself, from the way you dress to how you put on your shoess, then yes, you can change your personality. it's apart of you, so deal with it.

your personality changes with age, but that's not something you control.


What do you mean "simply no". I never asked a "yes" or "no" question. Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing?

As a kid, i agree with you. However, once you hit your teenage years, that's the defining point where you choose how you treat others and yourself. Personality is something that fluctuates. For some years, you could have a shitty personality. As you grow and experience other things, you mold your personality depending on how you want people to perceive you.

Basically, I think someone's personality does come from external factors/environment/etc, but you definitely have control over it. I know people who consider me a very happy and charismatic person. Some of my co-workers think I'm way too serious and kinda of a buzzkill.



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