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lordmandeep said:
Yeah the thing is sure the holiday has Christian origins it is a great time to be with friends and family.

During the Holidays almost everyone gets together with family or friends.


The Winter Solstice/Yuletime was around long before Christianity stole it and made it Jesus' birthday.

Gift giving is part of the real 'christmas'. So is decorating houses and getting drunk.

Christianity made it boring but now the pagans are reclaiming it and making it the party it always was.



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in the end the Holidays are a great time overall.

People go crazy about gifts and commercialism but people in the end get together with family and such.

For example I see here in Canada, many non-Christians still buy gifts for their kids and get together with family as people have 3-4 days for nothing to do.

I am not Christian but X-mas is is usually the busiest time of the year for events. This X-mas in a week I went out with my friends 3 times, went over for 4 family functions and one party,



lordmandeep said:
well the logic is that a irreligious society creates a perfect society.

Britain sort of proves that all of societies problems will not be simply solved by getting rid of God. Its way more complicated then that, some people can be so simplistic.


Who on earth ever said that? Is that some stane from religious people to throw something back in our faces when it doesn't work, when we never said it would anyway.



 

Andrespetmonkey said:
Great! Though it definitely doesn't feel that way where I am. Almost everyone in my school is either muslim or christian, maybe only 5-10% would call themselves atheist/agnostic. I'm in Brent though, the most multi-cultural area in Europe, so this is an anomaly.

Historically and culturally (though not anymore), Britain could be called Christian, but thankfully christians are becoming a minority here according to the polls. (No offence)

About 90% of the people in my school aren't religious, I don't know many religious people either.



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Seece said:
lordmandeep said:
well the logic is that a irreligious society creates a perfect society.

Britain sort of proves that all of societies problems will not be simply solved by getting rid of God. Its way more complicated then that, some people can be so simplistic.


Who on earth ever said that? Is that some stane from religious people to throw something back in our faces when it doesn't work, when we never said it would anyway.

I think you missed his point. It is the general concesus among many that without religion the world would be a better place, although it is not stated in this report.  Reading readers comments on the major newspapers websites pretty much supports this.

It's nonsense to say " throw something back in our faces when it doesn't work".

With or without religion, the greed, hate, envy, prejudice etc., that is present in any society will stay the same. Any intelligent person knows this.

Back to the thread: The strange thing is that as christians loose their faith others aren't. Immigration and convertion to islam is pushhing muslim numbers up in the UK (from another report).

At some point Britain will be majority atheist but with islam as the dominant practicing religion.

85% atheist, 10% muslim should do the trick.

Be better if the numbers were coming down on all sides.

 



brendude13 said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
Great! Though it definitely doesn't feel that way where I am. Almost everyone in my school is either muslim or christian, maybe only 5-10% would call themselves atheist/agnostic. I'm in Brent though, the most multi-cultural area in Europe, so this is an anomaly.

Historically and culturally (though not anymore), Britain could be called Christian, but thankfully christians are becoming a minority here according to the polls. (No offence)

About 90% of the people in my school aren't religious, I don't know many religious people either.

Lucky you. Today someone told me they didn't believe in evaporation. "God moves water around in his own way" he said. 



justinian said:
Seece said:
lordmandeep said:
well the logic is that a irreligious society creates a perfect society.

Britain sort of proves that all of societies problems will not be simply solved by getting rid of God. Its way more complicated then that, some people can be so simplistic.


Who on earth ever said that? Is that some stane from religious people to throw something back in our faces when it doesn't work, when we never said it would anyway.

I think you missed his point. It is the general concesus among many that without religion the world would be a better place, although it is not stated in this report.  Reading readers comments on the major newspapers websites pretty much supports this.

It's nonsense to say " throw something back in our faces when it doesn't work".

With or without religion, the greed, hate, envy, prejudice etc., that is present in any society will stay the same. Any intelligent person knows this.

Exactly, this is my point, He seems to be saying that a lot of people were predicting world peace when I don't think that's the case at all.

Back to the thread: The strange thing is that as christians loose their faith others aren't. Immigration and convertion to islam is pushhing muslim numbers up in the UK (from another report).

At some point Britain will be majority atheist but with islam as the dominant practicing religion.

85% atheist, 10% muslim should do the trick.

Be better if the numbers were coming down on all sides.

 





 

The sad thing is (imo) while Europe is becoming increasingly secular and agnostic/atheist, the rest of the world is becoming more religious. For a start we've seen the frightening rise of political/militant Islam over the last few decades (aided by the West I may add- inadvertently or not). and the US is alone in the modern industrialised world with a large, powerful and vocal Christian fundamentalist population.



Badassbab said:
The sad thing is (imo) while Europe is becoming increasingly secular and agnostic/atheist, the rest of the world is becoming more religious. For a start we've seen the frightening rise of political/militant Islam over the last few decades (aided by the West I may add- inadvertently or not). and the US is alone in the modern industrialised world with a large, powerful and vocal Christian fundamentalist population.

Religion is shrinking in NA, some parts of Asia and Oceania :) So not to worry.