What head injury did you sustain that makes you think I'd get into a rating list fight? Are we thirteen years old, here? Do we need to pretend to be thirteen to have a discussion about arcade space combat? I'm not into the kinky stuff.

Really? Because I kind of assumed we just had different experiences of it, owing to the fact that we don't have identical value metrics.

Yea is a great shame they are gone. They did some real magic with the gamecube. Those games were some of the best looking PS2 era games for an extremely long time.

By most accounts it sounds like Sony are the ones that messed it up for them. The rumours going around were that Lair was delayed in order to shoe-horn sixaxis controls in as Sony wanted a game to show them off properly. The fact Sony felt a need to then later try and tell reviewers how to do their job by sending a booklet detailing how the sixaxis controls worked seems to go along with that.

I would have liked to have seen Factor 5 have a go at a Wii game. I'm sure with their experience on the gamecube they could have made something very impressive for it.

The closest thing I had to that was Endurance, but Endurance kind of told you what to expect right there.

Apparently what remains of Factor 5 still works with Nintendo when it comes to creating console architecture - they were involved in the Wii and the 3DS, apparently. I like to imagine what a Rogue Squadron game on the Wii U would be like, if carefully designed around the stronger elements of the series.

Yeah! It could even be on Corneria. Multiple levels per planet could work, but they'd have to make sure to vary the environments in the levels enough to justify it. Liek the first level could be a classic Corneria approach where your'e going through the outskirts of a city and take out the boss at the end, and then the level after that being something like Kantina, only you're flying through the metropolitan center of Corneria city itself, and it's constantly under attack. You'd have different objectives over time, with speed often being a factor, and it'd come to a head in a boss battle with some kinda super weapon.

Yeah. Yeah, if Nintendo made that game, I would miss Rogue Squadron a lot less.

That would be fantastic if true. While they may not have always hit gameplay out of the park in terms of technology they were top of the game. You are so right about Rogue squadron and just how mind boggingly fantastic it looked. Especially when you compared it to other launch titles for the gamecube, ps2 or even the far more powerful xbox. I believe Factor 5 did use to provide Nintendo with some help in regards to tech design. 

I actually met someone from the Lair development staff (he had a t-shirt with it on so wasn't hard to tell lol). This was after the studio had folded and I could tell he was very insecure about Lair. When I started talking to him he seemed slightly timid and his first question was what I had thought about the controls. Talking to him I very much got the impression that sixaxis had not been the planned control scheme at all. 

Rogue Squadron 2 > RS1 > RS3. Don't judge the series by the weakest game.

And i think if star fox was to have online it could be in inline with a more Battlefield approach, different classes like eng,bomber, medic and so on. They already have the figthers and tanks and whatever else they would like to add with some large environments and a sci-fi approach

Starfox oughta be all flying. Now, if they combined Republic Commando with Rogue Squadron for a battlefield kind of experience, where you can hop in Turbolasers and try to shoot X-Wings out of the sky? Holy crap! That would be incredible.