I hope this is bull, I can't stand the thought of consoles turning into glorified iPad's. Just when I thought gaming couldn't be any worse off...

It may just be option integration with any Windows 8 tablet. They have limited integration with PCs, Xbox 360, Phones, etc.. now; could just be the things that have been talking about for quite awhile. If it is a actually tablet like controller similar to what the Wii U will have, it is doubtful they just threw it together after the Wii U announcements. Things like this should have been in development for quite some time.

They all copied monopoly, since it's a game you play with your hands, and it had mass success, so it satisfies both rules. You can also play it on your tv at the same time, or make believe if you use markers on your tv screen (cathode ray tube at the time). Ok, I won't satire more, but you get the point.

Look, device to tv interactivity has existed since forever, you mentioned the Sega VMU. The full interactivity was offered by Nintendo with the GBA way before the iPad did. Touch controls, it's not a novelty. Anyways, for the full design, Apple did not bring it to market, so in that sense Nintendo did not copy. If you're talking about the interactivity between two screened devices, Nintendo had it before Apple. If you're going with a tablet per se, Apple did it, Nintendo didn't. The thing is a controller and a tablet, hence the term tablet-controller. Apple never did that, because they never released a console, so they don't have a controller.

When will some of us learn to classify things in their different aspects, and judge overall with the full picture in mind? The way it is, it's an asynchronous mess where you use one argument, then another and there is no clear definition.

If you mean to say that Nintendo copied Apple for using a touch-enabled device to communicate with another screen, sure Nintendo copied. But that is so little as compared to the interactivity argument, which is the focal point of the dual-screen discussion.

EDIT: And even then, as happysquirrel said (lots of happy ppl around here), the DS beat the iPad to it.

Gyrating around in front of a glorified camera while mashing on a touch pad... how did gaming ever devolve into this?

If it is a 40" LCD with a thinner debth compared to a vita's surface to depth ratio, then for all suits and purposes it is less bulky. If you're arguing portability, then of course volumetric measurements are the way to go.

@Volumetrics. So familiar with them you called them square inches. Something's fishy.

i do, but more importantly you also get the point.  listen, i don't know why i'm picking on you.  most likely it's because i'm a dick.  i don't particulary ever remember you actually falling into the "elitest nintendo fan" category that i put out there.  but in life, a lot of time anger is misdirected.  but as your post so elegantly shows, there is an evolution of ideas around all companies in any market.  successful new ideas become industry standards. 

also, please forgive my typo about sq inches, i obviously meant in^3.

nintendo win at innovative again... xP

people want a choice, and to me kinect is a good option or alternative, and great media controller, but should not be the main controller. I hope the next xbox comes with kinect, a standard controller, and if they want a tablet too.

I do, I'm not an idiot :) As long as you're clear, I can understand you. When lines are fuzzy, it's really hard to hit a moving target, unless you're great at anticipation. I'm not there just yet. Thanks for italics.

:D I don't think I am an elitist nintendo fan :), but I like to make sense of things, that's for sure. When things don't make sense to me, I like to bring them out. I try not to be a jerk. You might remember that I voted for you a while back in one of the vote your favorite user threads (early in 2010, back when my nick was still padib). Lately you've been getting a tad on the bitter side, but I can understand it. One of the reasons I voted for you back then was because I knew you were a Sony fan, but you were able to put that aside to make sense of things. But in the context where you're essentially saying Nintendo is not innovating, it's a position that's hard to defend. If you stayed nuanced and said "Nintendo brought this and that aspect as an innovation, but this or that idea was there already", then you would be in a much better position to hold your ground. And it would actually address the gripe you had, about people lumping concepts together in one big ambiguous statement.

Anyway, I didn't feel like you were picking on me, but I appreciate the post. Hey, if rage is your issue, geez go no further, your pal is here. Rage is one of my biggest issues, but thank God I've been working on it. Consider boxing as a hobby, it really helps me alot.

I think you mean the Eyetoy introduced the concept