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reviniente on 10 February 2012
pezus said:
reviniente said:
maverick40 said:
kowenicki said:
maverick40 said:
Keep final fantasy exclusive to Sony platforms. I am sure Square enix will look at the sales of the 360 version and keep versus 13 exclusive to ps3. It doesnt make sense to waste money on porting a game when it will barely sell a million on the 360.

So they wont want $60m in revenue for a port that would cost a fraction of that?

People have gone crazy this gen... by your logic all the PS3 games that sold barely a million were abject failures and shouldnt have ever seen the light of day, even more so considering they may not be ports and therfore would have much larger spend than this simple port.

Yeah... you're right, almost $200m in revenue for the 360 versions of FFXIII and FFXIII-2 is a waste of everyones time.

Get a grip.

Seriously, out of everyone on this I taught you might have seen sense. The sales for final fantasy on the 360 are pathetic and no where close to the ps3 counterpart. Of course you are not going to admit that but instead pull imaginary numbers out of your arse. For one of the most recognised franchises all of time, square enix should be worried that they couild barely push half a million on the 360. Yeah you are all well and good picking numbers out of your arse about profit but at the end of the day the sales are well below expectations and everyone knows that. 

"by your logic all the PS3 games that sold barely a million were abject failures and shouldnt have ever seen the light of day"

Again what a terrible comparrison. These franchises such as yakuza or motorstorm are not system sellers like final fantasy and are very niche. They don't have multi million dollar ad campaigns with leona lewis singing the main theme song. When there is such a huge disparity in sales between the ps3 and 360 you have to wonder is the user base really the same.  

Sales on the X360 need not be anywhere near the sales on the PS3 for them to warrant an X360 version. SE will make money out of the X360 version, worry not. A more poignant concern is the fact that FFXIII-2 sold substatially less in Japan on the PS3. This whole debate owes more to PS3 fans being sour 'bout SE acknowledging the X360 as a relevant platform.

Oh really, how did you deduce that?

I've an uncanny talent for noticing what's in plain sight. It's good that you're back, BTW.



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oniyide on 10 February 2012
pezus said:
reviniente said:
pezus said:
reviniente said:
maverick40 said:
kowenicki said:
maverick40 said:
Keep final fantasy exclusive to Sony platforms. I am sure Square enix will look at the sales of the 360 version and keep versus 13 exclusive to ps3. It doesnt make sense to waste money on porting a game when it will barely sell a million on the 360.

So they wont want $60m in revenue for a port that would cost a fraction of that?

People have gone crazy this gen... by your logic all the PS3 games that sold barely a million were abject failures and shouldnt have ever seen the light of day, even more so considering they may not be ports and therfore would have much larger spend than this simple port.

Yeah... you're right, almost $200m in revenue for the 360 versions of FFXIII and FFXIII-2 is a waste of everyones time.

Get a grip.

Seriously, out of everyone on this I taught you might have seen sense. The sales for final fantasy on the 360 are pathetic and no where close to the ps3 counterpart. Of course you are not going to admit that but instead pull imaginary numbers out of your arse. For one of the most recognised franchises all of time, square enix should be worried that they couild barely push half a million on the 360. Yeah you are all well and good picking numbers out of your arse about profit but at the end of the day the sales are well below expectations and everyone knows that. 

"by your logic all the PS3 games that sold barely a million were abject failures and shouldnt have ever seen the light of day"

Again what a terrible comparrison. These franchises such as yakuza or motorstorm are not system sellers like final fantasy and are very niche. They don't have multi million dollar ad campaigns with leona lewis singing the main theme song. When there is such a huge disparity in sales between the ps3 and 360 you have to wonder is the user base really the same.  

Sales on the X360 need not be anywhere near the sales on the PS3 for them to warrant an X360 version. SE will make money out of the X360 version, worry not. A more poignant concern is the fact that FFXIII-2 sold substatially less in Japan on the PS3. This whole debate owes more to PS3 fans being sour 'bout SE acknowledging the X360 as a relevant platform.

Oh really, how did you deduce that?

I've an uncanny talent for noticing what's in plain sight. It's good that you're back, BTW.

It is, thanks. But, what's in plain sight for me is that SE just dropped the ball with FFXIII -> lower sales for the sequel


THIS, who the hell could actually believe that FF13-2 not doing so good has anything to do with it being on 360?? Especially in Japan where they dont care about that system anyway. By that logic FF13 should not have done as well as it did.



reviniente on 10 February 2012
pezus said:
reviniente said:
pezus said:
reviniente said:
maverick40 said:
kowenicki said:
maverick40 said:
Keep final fantasy exclusive to Sony platforms. I am sure Square enix will look at the sales of the 360 version and keep versus 13 exclusive to ps3. It doesnt make sense to waste money on porting a game when it will barely sell a million on the 360.

So they wont want $60m in revenue for a port that would cost a fraction of that?

People have gone crazy this gen... by your logic all the PS3 games that sold barely a million were abject failures and shouldnt have ever seen the light of day, even more so considering they may not be ports and therfore would have much larger spend than this simple port.

Yeah... you're right, almost $200m in revenue for the 360 versions of FFXIII and FFXIII-2 is a waste of everyones time.

Get a grip.

Seriously, out of everyone on this I taught you might have seen sense. The sales for final fantasy on the 360 are pathetic and no where close to the ps3 counterpart. Of course you are not going to admit that but instead pull imaginary numbers out of your arse. For one of the most recognised franchises all of time, square enix should be worried that they couild barely push half a million on the 360. Yeah you are all well and good picking numbers out of your arse about profit but at the end of the day the sales are well below expectations and everyone knows that. 

"by your logic all the PS3 games that sold barely a million were abject failures and shouldnt have ever seen the light of day"

Again what a terrible comparrison. These franchises such as yakuza or motorstorm are not system sellers like final fantasy and are very niche. They don't have multi million dollar ad campaigns with leona lewis singing the main theme song. When there is such a huge disparity in sales between the ps3 and 360 you have to wonder is the user base really the same.  

Sales on the X360 need not be anywhere near the sales on the PS3 for them to warrant an X360 version. SE will make money out of the X360 version, worry not. A more poignant concern is the fact that FFXIII-2 sold substatially less in Japan on the PS3. This whole debate owes more to PS3 fans being sour 'bout SE acknowledging the X360 as a relevant platform.

Oh really, how did you deduce that?

I've an uncanny talent for noticing what's in plain sight. It's good that you're back, BTW.

It is, thanks. But, what's in plain sight for me is that SE just dropped the ball with FFXIII -> lower sales for the sequel

It still does not warrant FF going back to being a PS3 exclusive.



zuvuyeay on 11 February 2012

resi 5, 1m in japan now i think it was this week anyway

why are people hating on this FF on 360,it might grow the fanbase for the new console or future games,it seems to be selling alright to me



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Skeeuk on 11 February 2012

final fantasy 13-2 sold ok but not as much as you would expect it to, from demo it looks to have worse off visuals than 13



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SOLIDSNAKE08 on 12 February 2012

i literally dont understand what square enix have been doing these past few years. remember those exclusive to 360 in japan? all of them bombed yet they still kept on making more exclusives for the 360. then ff 13 goes multiplat, knda expected. it releases, theres 360 exclusive ads for it on tv and now the same with 13-2. why are square trying so hard to push their games on xbox when their fans are on CLEARLY on playstation? only thing i can think of is a lot of money from microsoft... wasted money



SOLIDSNAKE08 on 12 February 2012
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
cmeese47 said:
So glad to see the non holiday numbers return I was so sick of seeing idiots throwing all there money at 360 and Kinect because they want to dance in front of their tv. Long live the PS3 and its 30k weekly hardware wins.

really...

Xbox360 is doing great, i think most of the sales it's been doing above Ps3 are Kinect sales from kids, see Xbox360 best selling game... (shame)

Microsoft was smart to go after Nintendo's fresh casuals, after they locked the hardcore


but look at nintendo now.. running back to the hardcore gamers they lost with the wii but as long as microsoft get cod on their system every year its fine. no other game is necessary.



VXIII on 12 February 2012
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
i literally dont understand what square enix have been doing these past few years. remember those exclusive to 360 in japan? all of them bombed yet they still kept on making more exclusives for the 360. then ff 13 goes multiplat, knda expected. it releases, theres 360 exclusive ads for it on tv and now the same with 13-2. why are square trying so hard to push their games on xbox when their fans are on CLEARLY on playstation? only thing i can think of is a lot of money from microsoft... wasted money

I don't think that MS money has anything to do with XIII-2, SE know for sure that their game is going to sell well on the PS3 even if they do nothing about it, they try so hard to build a new fan base on the 360 which explain the exclusive ads / DLC.

However, I agree it is a terrible strategy , SE are abandoning their main fan base and are unable to build a new one on the 360.



Barozi on 12 February 2012
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
i literally dont understand what square enix have been doing these past few years. remember those exclusive to 360 in japan? all of them bombed yet they still kept on making more exclusives for the 360. then ff 13 goes multiplat, knda expected. it releases, theres 360 exclusive ads for it on tv and now the same with 13-2. why are square trying so hard to push their games on xbox when their fans are on CLEARLY on playstation? only thing i can think of is a lot of money from microsoft... wasted money


There weren't that many. Last Remnant for PS3 was simply cancelled for whatever reason, but was never meant to be (console) exclusive. Infinite Undiscovery was funded by Microsoft and Star Ocean 4 was moneyhatted for being a one year exclusive.
MS tries to get a grip in Japan. Squeenix is just taking the money from MS.



VGKing on 12 February 2012
reviniente said:
maverick40 said:
kowenicki said:
maverick40 said:
Keep final fantasy exclusive to Sony platforms. I am sure Square enix will look at the sales of the 360 version and keep versus 13 exclusive to ps3. It doesnt make sense to waste money on porting a game when it will barely sell a million on the 360.

So they wont want $60m in revenue for a port that would cost a fraction of that?

People have gone crazy this gen... by your logic all the PS3 games that sold barely a million were abject failures and shouldnt have ever seen the light of day, even more so considering they may not be ports and therfore would have much larger spend than this simple port.

Yeah... you're right, almost $200m in revenue for the 360 versions of FFXIII and FFXIII-2 is a waste of everyones time.

Get a grip.

Seriously, out of everyone on this I taught you might have seen sense. The sales for final fantasy on the 360 are pathetic and no where close to the ps3 counterpart. Of course you are not going to admit that but instead pull imaginary numbers out of your arse. For one of the most recognised franchises all of time, square enix should be worried that they couild barely push half a million on the 360. Yeah you are all well and good picking numbers out of your arse about profit but at the end of the day the sales are well below expectations and everyone knows that. 

"by your logic all the PS3 games that sold barely a million were abject failures and shouldnt have ever seen the light of day"

Again what a terrible comparrison. These franchises such as yakuza or motorstorm are not system sellers like final fantasy and are very niche. They don't have multi million dollar ad campaigns with leona lewis singing the main theme song. When there is such a huge disparity in sales between the ps3 and 360 you have to wonder is the user base really the same.  

Sales on the X360 need not be anywhere near the sales on the PS3 for them to warrant an X360 version. SE will make money out of the X360 version, worry not. A more poignant concern is the fact that FFXIII-2 sold substatially less in Japan on the PS3. This whole debate owes more to PS3 fans being sour 'bout SE acknowledging the X360 as a relevant platform.


No, it has to do with how the 360 versions of these game sell like *bleep* and yet they still get exclusive DLC.

Acknowlege the 360 as a platform, just don't piss on the most loyal of your fans. Square Enix announced Verus XIII as an exclusive for PS3 so it better stay that way.