Vita Problems: Mistakes of the Past

First off this is not a doom thread, but simply pointing out why the Playstation Vita will struggle in the mobile world and also why it will not fail either.

People Look at the PSP and you will hear many people with mixed reactions.  Some saying it was a success and others saying it was a fail.  In terms of hardware sales it surpassed being a success, selling over 73 million consoles worldwide and still selling today.  Before the PSP there was really no successful portable console made by anybody other than Nintendo, so this was a great achievement alone for Sony, however in software sales is where the PSP lacked.  The PSP was unfortunate enough to have the PSP massively hacked and created many problems on the PSP but that is not the only reason games did not sale well on the PSP. Let's go back and think of the games made on the PSP.........Not much right.  I mean yes they had a few like God of War, Metal Gear Solid, Crysis Core, and let's not forget about Monster Hunters. But even when you take these games don't you kind of wish they were on the PS3 with better graphics? Wouldn't they have all been better off that way? 

Now let's fast forward a bit.  Now we have a brand new portable console called the Playstation Vita AKA PSP2. So now that the Vita is coming out with home console like graphics this thing should be a huge hit right?  That's where you are wrong.  You have some people who look at the graphics and are amazed at what they're seeing so they rush out to buy it.  Then you have others who look at it and say, what is on this that makes it any different than my PS3.  Some will argue that it has touchscreen front and rear, a gyro scope, and a camera. But wait isn't a gyro scope basically sixaxis? And isn't the PS eye a camera? And touchscreen vs buttons?  We have all seen how that ends right?  

However, let's continue with the software shall we.  So it has Uncharted, Wipeout, Modnation racers, Little Big Planet, Killzone, Resistance,etc, etc!  All these First first party games coming to the Vita, it will be an instant hit right?! Wrong.  We are looking at the same mistakes that the PSP made.  All these games are nice but when you have a home console already, why can't I just play it on there?  We have all these games for the PS3 but now we can have them on a portable but with not quite as good of graphics, a smaller screen, and not as good as audio. But i know, I know, Nintendo remakes games all the time for the 3DS and DS.  Just look at all the Mario and Zelda games right?  Well you are right but a lot of people miss things like Mario and Zelda fits in perfectly with the mobile crowd.  Or that Zelda games on the DS are usually a lot different than the console version, and really its Mario.  Mario is an icon, that's all that needs to be said.  Then you have franchises that are built specifically for the DS and 3DS like pokemon.  This all being said Sony has a game that can rival Nintendo with Monster Hunters......Unfortunately the 3DS has that now too which means the Vita lost it's flagship with the Vita. So what games can take over now and have a real impact on the Vita?

Last but not least we look at the price.  When the 3DS first came out it paid heavily for pricing the system at $250 with no big name titles.  Since then it has dropped the price to $170 dollars with many big name titles and constently being the top seller of all consoles worldwide on a weekly basis.  The Vita has also started it's selling point at $250 or $300 with the 3G model.  Or is it.  Considering the heavy pricing of the memory cards which allows you to play games you are probably looking at $280 at least.  Then you have the same people I talked about earlier who says, well the technology is huge and it's worth it.  Well I would have to say yes, but is it to much for a mobile device that you can find something similar on the PS3 for a cheaper price but with slightly better graphics? 

Truth is, Sony has made these mistakes in the past but just like the PSP I don't believe the Vita will fail, but it will struggle unless it can bring games out that can not be found anywhere else. Meaning no more remakes, but something built from the ground up specifically for the Vita itself. 

What do you all think, comment and have fun.  And keep it civil.

I think you need to take another look at the vita software line up..that's all I got from that wall of text

Things are looking hard for Vita.. wonder if sony has something big (they better do...)

No, I think you need to explain. Please explain how any game that the Vita is coming out will be a system seller.  If you can't explain yourself, don't comment

wait so you want new games to promote a 'handheld' experience and you want a gurantee they will be system seller? Unless you have a crystal ball I doubt even you would know if any of the new IPs will be a system seller or not

and I was mainly referencing to your it's only ps3 like games on the vita comments..let me put it this way as to why you can't just play them on the ps3

1. they are not on the ps3

2. they are not on the ps3

3. and finally they are not on the ps3

almost all these games are made with the psv capabilities in mind and almost all of them promote on the go experiences..and I would even argue games like LBP will work better on the vita than on the ps3.

and the system has many new IP announced for it...from a variety of genre. So no it's not only about IPs well known on the home consoles either. Again go take a hard look at the list of games announced for the psv. You will see many new games in addition to the well known ones. Time will tell how these will do obviously.

1. Console Remakes

2. Console Remakes

3. Console Remakes

Hmm, I guess I can count to three too.....

The PSP did the exact same thing by remaking games for the PSP and it showed to be a very non-successful strategy.  And yes I do see new games on the list, but ones that will suck in a whole new crowd or even steal sales from the 3DS no.  Fact is the PSV is in direct competition with the 3DS and when they are side by side with a $250 sticker and a $170 sticker it makes it hard enough. But then you have Mario and Zelda in one corner vs Uncharted and Little Big Planet(Which I actually see LBP as a good portable game) in the other corner where do you see the majority going?  Then you have people skeptical about the PSV because of they can get these games on the PS3 already for a cheaper price.  And 3DS doesn't even have pokemon yet, what happens then?

FIXED.(SORRY BUT YOUR GRAMMAR REALLY SUCKS)

To answer your question,

NOT EVERYONE HAS A PS3.
Vita isn't for your average PS3 owner, its for the PSP/DS owner and possibly an iPod owner.

But you do make a good point. Sony needs their own Pokemon-like game. A game that would only be fun on a portable. 

HAha yeah I'll go back and fix it in the morning lol I'm extremely tired atm and did not re-read what i had written.  And no not everybody has a PS3 which is my point on a home console being cheaper, but yes of course the Vita will still sale on a regular basis.  I don't believe it will fail.

And thanks, it's the main thing that will hold it back if they cant fix it

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how are any of the first party games in the line up console 'remakes'? 0_o they are ALL new games. or do you have somrt of a morphed definition of remake?

ugh how the heck can you even say how new IPs will do? Not sure you what you want sony to do more software wise at launch tbh..this is one of the best launch line ups in history!

Major known IPs from Sony - check

Great 3rd party games - check

New IPs, both from sony and 3rd parties - check

listen, games like Gravity Daze etc may not sway you..but doesn't mean they lack or are not suited for the console. Your whole premise is filled with speculation and a mentality that no one cares for these new games or something.

listen it just depends on a persons taste..for me put Golden Abyss+ Gravity + etc etc and I won't give a crap about if you put all known 3ds games put on the other end ..together.

let's talk about the ports as well..almost all the ports are made specifically for the hw..with tons of new content, features...it honestly sounds like you are ranting on with a very limited amount of info about the product tbh

I swear this stupid omfg it HAS to beat 3ds to do well mentality is beyond silly now. why the comparison so much now? Look at the psv as its own system. It's great hw..fantastic line up of sw to compliment it. Will the new IPs click with the new crowd? Time will tell. But for now you ARE spreading doom and gloom based on nothing. ffs the system hasn't even launched WW yet. Let it launch..give it a year..then let's come back to this ok?

Who knows, maybe one of their new IPs will be there next big thing on VITA