Conegamer said:
rutea7 said:
Conegamer said:
rutea7 said:
Salnax said:
rutea7 said:
Salnax said:
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the launch lineup might not be very appealing for the japanese market right now but it has a ton of games releasing in the first half of the year
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Like what?
I'm dead serious. The 3DS had a lot of games coming in its "near future" at launch era, but as the launch ended, those games were either duds or delayed. What does the VIta have to support it?
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oh geez are you serious?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_Vita_games
i counted like 10 games i want off that list, of course i wont be able to get them all this year, some definitly wont release this year outside of japan. but with that list and whatever they show at e3 i'm sure there'll be plenty to play for all tastes. well, maybe not the taste of nintendo fans since there's no mario or zelda =P
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Yes, there are a lot of titles, but which of them will sell millions.
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the ones i think will sell over a million eventually are mostly remakes, there's a lot of new IPs and no way to know how well they'll do. metal gear solid collection and final fantasy X should sell over a million for example. i'm very excited for ZoE cause i never got to play them but i have no idea if it will sell well. uncharted is one game i think will reach a million, from what i tried of the demo it's a very good game and deserves to sell well.
like i said, variety, games that appeal to more than one type of gamer and that freaking gorgeous screen. Vita is far from doomed and saying its doomed will just make you feel silly in the future.
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I wouldn't be so certain that remakes would reach a million, or be system-sellers;
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/49135/final-fantasy-iv-the-complete-collection/
This game has been out for about a year on a console with a far larger install base, and yet, it hasn't even managed 400k WW. Now let's have a look at the Metal Gear collection:
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/51649/metal-gear-solid-hd-collection/
300k, add the 360 number and you reach just under 600k. Still a long way off a million, with a combined install base of around 125mil. Surely if any Metal Gear collection woulld be a million-seller, or shift HW, it would be this one.
My point is, collections and re-makes neither push console sales nor do they sell millions. Only original games, like Uncharted, would do this. The best chance of million-sellers on that list would be Uncharted, LittleBigPlanet and Resistance IMO. There may be a constant stream of moderate hits (i.e. will reach about 250k WW), but nothing to attract people to buy the console, and so won't have a large effect on HW sales.
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ff4 isnt nearly as popular as X and the psp had a lot of piracy problems. i guess mgs wont reach 1mil.
but still not having a big selling game in the first few months wont mean a system is doomed as long as the library as a whole and the system features are apealing. i can tell you have a different (biased) view that wont change so it might be a waste of time to post this.
a loooooot of people out there are interested in the vita and will buy it, as the games come out more and more people will buy it. so what if the 3ds sells more? with 2 dedicated handhelds on the market you see the one that sells less as instantly doomed? thats a messed up way of looking at things.
the vita is more expensive and something i wouldnt put in the hands of a kid lightheartedly, it's something a tech lover like me who likes gaming wants.
if the 3ds managed to recover from that (lets face it) crappy launch lineup you think a system with a much more ineteresting lineup wont be able to?
would you like to compare game libraries for the next holiday when the time comes? you might not want to do that, just saying.
my positive views regarding the Vita wont budge and i can hapilly rant on how excited i am about the system, how mindblowing it is to play it, how many great games are coming for it and how i cant wait for the 22nd to come over and over again.
sorry but i'm a happy gamer and regardless of whether you'd like vita to fail or not it's far from doomed.
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Far from it. I don't want Vita to fail at all. Infact, I reckon the Vita could be a great success, as I stated in my opening post. However, Sony needs to rectify it's advertising problems, its costs and its games.
Yes, the Vita has a better launch lineup, but it still only has one or two real heavy-hitting games there. And there's a lot of modest hits, but nothing mega that will make hundreds of thousands who are undecided to go out and get the system. So, this needs to be rectified with a huge exclusive, something along the lines of Resident Evil 6, GTA V, Monster Hunter 4 or a breakout hit. I don't see that happening, sadly.
Finally, I find it difficult to see the Vita having a better holiday lineup than the 3DS. Remember- It had 20 free games for Ambassadors, on top of 2 Mario titles, a Monster Hunter, and also supported by a Zelda, 2 Resident Evil games and several smaller hits (Tales of The Abyss, Dead or Alive, games on the eShop, for example). In addition, the future is looking bright for the 3DS, with games like Kid Icarus, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion, Paper Mario, Monster Hunter 4 and Professor Layton and the Mask Of Miracles all likely to release in the next 12 months, and all with a chance of reaching 1 million copies sold. Then titles like Fire Emblem, Beyond The Labyrinth, Theatrythm, Rayman and others releasing periodically throughout the year to boost the 3DS library, where the 3DS is around half the cost. Parents would likely see more for their kids in the 3DS than in the Vita, keeping their hold on the casual market.
It terms of heavy hitters, the 3DS wins it IMO.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_3DS_games
Finally, you said that you wouldn't put it in the hands of kids lightheartedly and it's for tech lovers. This is true, but by doing this, they're losing a lot of potential sales. And after the inital rush of the tech-savvy buying it in the launch window, what will keep it afloat? It's doubtful people will buy it on a whim.
I don't mean to sound hateful or that the Vita is doomed, because it isn't. But, I don't see it selling consistantly well in the future, unless there is a heavy price-drop, heavy advertisement, a real HUGE exclusive, or (preferably) all three, just like the 3DS did last year. It shall be interesting to see what Sony shall do this year.
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