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crissindahouse on 03 February 2012

man anytime soon we will see an apple tv which means millions of people will start to buy only apple tv's anymore like they do with the phone. i think this will kill some of the sales for sony, panasonic and everyone else as well.

i really can't even imagine how many people will only buy apple tv's when we will get them. i have the feeling 80% of iphone owners will buy only apple tv's when they are good because it will have a yellow instead of a red standby light lol



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badgenome on 03 February 2012

Probably will get banned for saying this, but oh well: 3DO is doomed.



theprof00 on 03 February 2012
Joelcool7 said:
Man this sucks. P.S America is making it more difficult for Japan to recover and they won't likely recover again. They will need to adapt unless they can devalue the yen.

The American government purposely savotauged Japan. They convinced Japan to inflate the yen. They spent years inflating the yen. But then Americas economy started taking a hit now the yen is way way to strong. The yen continues to be out of control. Now the US is in trouble financially and the Government is taking protectionist actions. Example Obama said he will give American corporations tax breaks and help to employ Americans. He said he will do everything possible to give American products an edge.

So how will Nintendo, Sony, Panasonic..etc...etc... recover while the yen is high not to mention America is making it as hard as possible to compete in the US. I think Nintendo will return to profitability and am sure Sony can as well and other Japanese companies. But they won't likely see as high profits as they used to anytime soon.

The strength of currencies comes directly from their trade economy.

When you export a lot and import a little, money flows into your country, making your currency stronger.
When you import a lot and export a little, money flows out of your country, making your currency weaker.

This is the true nature of the beast.

Nothing really to do with inflation. It has to do with Japan being such an export powerhouse, and importing very little.



crissindahouse on 03 February 2012
theprof00 said:
Joelcool7 said:
Man this sucks. P.S America is making it more difficult for Japan to recover and they won't likely recover again. They will need to adapt unless they can devalue the yen.

The American government purposely savotauged Japan. They convinced Japan to inflate the yen. They spent years inflating the yen. But then Americas economy started taking a hit now the yen is way way to strong. The yen continues to be out of control. Now the US is in trouble financially and the Government is taking protectionist actions. Example Obama said he will give American corporations tax breaks and help to employ Americans. He said he will do everything possible to give American products an edge.

So how will Nintendo, Sony, Panasonic..etc...etc... recover while the yen is high not to mention America is making it as hard as possible to compete in the US. I think Nintendo will return to profitability and am sure Sony can as well and other Japanese companies. But they won't likely see as high profits as they used to anytime soon.

The strength of currencies comes directly from their trade economy.

When you export a lot and import a little, money flows into your country, making your currency stronger.
When you import a lot and export a little, money flows out of your country, making your currency weaker.

This is the true nature of the beast.

Nothing really to do with inflation. It has to do with Japan being such an export powerhouse, and importing very little.

hey but swiss is importing billions of euros from german defrauders and half of swiss is living from that and they only export chocolate to us, their currency has to be weak then^^

yeah just joking...



Darth Tigris on 03 February 2012
badgenome said:
Probably will get banned for saying this, but oh well: 3DO is doomed.

BWHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!  You are on a ROLL today!



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Chris Hu on 03 February 2012
Turkish said:
Slimebeast said:
Panasonic was hot for electronic products in the 90's but since that they only been famous for their high quality plasma TV:s.

I planned to buy a Panasonic plasma TV for a while but since then LEDs have catched up and are very aweomse so most consumers including me will buy a Samsung LED.


Plasmas over LCD/LED ANYDAY, Plasmas are much much better then LED and LCD


Only if you like to waist electricty five years from now no electric company is going to make plasma TV's anymore.



Turkish on 03 February 2012
Chris Hu said:
Turkish said:
Slimebeast said:
Panasonic was hot for electronic products in the 90's but since that they only been famous for their high quality plasma TV:s.

I planned to buy a Panasonic plasma TV for a while but since then LEDs have catched up and are very aweomse so most consumers including me will buy a Samsung LED.


Plasmas over LCD/LED ANYDAY, Plasmas are much much better then LED and LCD


Only if you like to waist electricty five years from now no electric company is going to make plasma TV's anymore.

Funny, I just remembered when LCD became affordable around 2005/2006 they were saying the exact same thing, Plasma is still around. Every other display technology is inferior to Plasma. The viewing angles, the colors, the contrast, the blacks, the refresh rate, the 3D is much better on Plasma.

 

The only technology that seems to rival Plasma seems to be OLED, but its only started to make an appearance and still too expensive.



Turkish on 03 February 2012
crissindahouse said:
man anytime soon we will see an apple tv which means millions of people will start to buy only apple tv's anymore like they do with the phone. i think this will kill some of the sales for sony, panasonic and everyone else as well.

i really can't even imagine how many people will only buy apple tv's when we will get them. i have the feeling 80% of iphone owners will buy only apple tv's when they are good because it will have a yellow instead of a red standby light lol


Lol Apple have no chance to survive the TV business, its only dominated by 4 5 companies and mainly by Samsung. Apple is pricing their little iPhones at 600 euros, how much will they price their TVs? 6000? The high end market is already feeded by Panasonic and Sony. If you want higher then high end then there are still Loewe tv's.

Sorry buddy, even those millions of Apple fanboys wont flock to anything that is significantly too expensive. TVs are also not something you can just upgrade every year.



crissindahouse on 03 February 2012
Turkish said:
crissindahouse said:
man anytime soon we will see an apple tv which means millions of people will start to buy only apple tv's anymore like they do with the phone. i think this will kill some of the sales for sony, panasonic and everyone else as well.

i really can't even imagine how many people will only buy apple tv's when we will get them. i have the feeling 80% of iphone owners will buy only apple tv's when they are good because it will have a yellow instead of a red standby light lol


Lol Apple have no chance to survive the TV business, its only dominated by 4 5 companies and mainly by Samsung. Apple is pricing their little iPhones at 600 euros, how much will they price their TVs? 6000? The high end market is already feeded by Panasonic and Sony. If you want higher then high end then there are still Loewe tv's.

Sorry buddy, even those millions of Apple fanboys wont flock to anything that is significantly too expensive. TVs are also not something you can just upgrade every year.

i hiope they don't have a chance because i hate a company dominating a market but i think you will be wrong. they don't have to price their tv's so much higher. they sell the phone for 150 or so more than the competition, they could sell it for 300 or so more and believe me there are so many freaks nowadays they buy everything with an apple logo just so they can say "i have an apple tv". they don't do it because they need it but they will buy it. i know some of them and i know some of them will buy an apple tv just because it's apple.

and even if they won't sell so much they will still sell some and these purchasers won't buy an other tv then. 5 million apple tv's would mean 5 million less for the others...



Chris Hu on 03 February 2012
Turkish said:
Chris Hu said:
Turkish said:
Slimebeast said:
Panasonic was hot for electronic products in the 90's but since that they only been famous for their high quality plasma TV:s.

I planned to buy a Panasonic plasma TV for a while but since then LEDs have catched up and are very aweomse so most consumers including me will buy a Samsung LED.


Plasmas over LCD/LED ANYDAY, Plasmas are much much better then LED and LCD


Only if you like to waist electricty five years from now no electric company is going to make plasma TV's anymore.

Funny, I just remembered when LCD became affordable around 2005/2006 they were saying the exact same thing, Plasma is still around. Every other display technology is inferior to Plasma. The viewing angles, the colors, the contrast, the blacks, the refresh rate, the 3D is much better on Plasma.

 

The only technology that seems to rival Plasma seems to be OLED, but its only started to make an appearance and still too expensive.

Electric companies that stopped making plasma tv's outnumber the electric companies that are still making plasmas once Samsung and LG will stop making them which will be pretty soon its RIP for plasma.  Also around 2005/2006 was the last time all major electronic companies still made plasma tv's.  Since then Sony, Hitachi, Philips, Vizio, RCA, NEC, and Pioneer have stopped making plasma tv's.  Also not everyone needs or has room for a 40+inch tv for them LCD/LED and pretty soon OLED is the only choice.