isnt Vita already profitable ?

i´ve seen something about Vita that the Cost was 150$ or some...

Two things

1.Vita is expected by someone at sony to be profitable in three years.

2. The cost you listed even if it was accurate doesn't include marketing, employee, transportation, and other expenses outside of the actual product pieces. 

I wouldn´t know, Argh.

Maybe ethomaz and/or kowenicki know something about it.

But assuming it is...on the other hand, everyone seems to be complaining about the price after the 3DS got its massive price cut last year, potentially leading to low sales.

Between a rock and a hard place.It sucks.

Train wreck said: "As for gaming itself, there is no doubt in my mind that the current era we are in is a Microsoft dominated one, they have been the most consistent video game company for the past three years or so and will be able to dictate gaming on their terms."

It´s interesting, the Xbox is now the 'cool' console in the U.S., which is the world´s biggest market.

If MS plays their cards right, they got a chance to successfully capitalize on that and transfer it to their next system, potentially making the "XB720" the winner in the U.S., even after launching a year (?) after the Wii U (of course, let´s see how Nintendo plays their cards)

So, if the next Xbox takes the U.S. by storm and keeps it that way, while continuing gaining presence in Europe, maybe, just maybe it ends up the number 1 system next gen.

Of course, both Wii U and PS4 might do that too, we never know, it´s such a volatile industry, but that´s one of the reasons it´s so interesting.

I don't think Sony minds being behind in the USA, they make less and less on each PS3 sold in the USA.
Unfortunately European sales aren't going much better for them the past 2 years.

First 2 columns is what Sony gains from each overseas sale.
Last 2 columns is what MS makes on each overseas sale. MS should up their marketing in Japan.

               1 USD->Yen 1 Eur->Yen 100 Yen->USD 1 Eur->USD
Dec 2006    115.3          153.5           0.867            1.331
Dec 2007    111.1          162.5           0.900            1.463
Dec 2008      93.6          118.3           1.068            1.263
Dec 2009      86.6          130.8           1.155            1.510
Dec 2010      84.0          110.5           1.190            1.315
Dec 2011      77.6          104.6           1.288            1.348

MS is sitting pretty on a weak US dollar as a big exporter, plus it's biggest market is at home.
Nintendo and Sony are very dependent on exchange rates.

HAHA true true :) They not bankrupt yet though!

Where are you getting the 1.7m on shelves by the end of 2011?

Sony shipped 14.1 million consoles this year -- http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=139492&page=1  and Vgchartz has them selling 14.059 million consoles in 2011 -- http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

Unless the shipment figure that sales gave for the PS3 is wrong and they actually shipped 15.76 million consoles in 2011.

Sales and Shipments arnt contained to years, we have 1.7 on shelves compared to lifetime shipments.

So is the ps4 and vita gonna be cut?

Well that's just a stupid and rather confusing way to go about it.