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Do you pirate?

Yes, quite a lot 65 32.66%
 
Yes, but only occasionally 61 30.65%
 
No, I haven't done so in a long time 50 25.13%
 
No, never have 21 10.55%
 
Total:197

oh I certainly don't outright endorse piracy either, I'm just saying that it's really not that big of a deal and sometimes it's okay.

On a related but separate note, Rich people can blow me. like they need MORE of my money. They'll do juuuuust fine without it.



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I haven't pirated a single game in two years and I buy all my movies from England on Blu-ray. For music, I use Grooveshark, which is completely legal.
TV shows, however, I torrent those. It takes ages for them to get here and they often don't come at all or they cut them out after one or two seasons (hit shows are often too expensive to purchase for the commercial channels here as they gain popularity overseas) and there's no real for me to get more channels on my TV.

I guess you could say that I'm legit as can be! I don't judge those who pirate though, not at all.



The two main things getting pirated are movies and games.

Music has become way more legit and you can easily find free copies of older songs online and listen to any song on Youtube.

Game piracy is mostly for PC. Compared to the last generation, a very small percentage have hacked their consoles. So most people do not pirate games. I buy 95% used games but that is legal so smite me.



I can understand how ppl are hurt financially when we pirate movies and music,
but not tv shows, if i miss a tv show i will watch online to catch up and hopefully be able to resume watching on the tv, but if im unable to catch up then i just wont watch that show at all and in the end it will be hurt
i think some things should be made available on the internet for free for ppl to watch



yeah actually many shows grew in popularity through piracy.

Great examples are many of the HBO shows and mainstream shows like Big Bang Theory and many others.



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Reasonable said:
While I don't advocate piracy in the least the article raised a number of key issues - or flaws - in current corporate and international operational models that certainly encourage people to pirate digital media of various forms.

Ultimately it's wrong simply because while not theft in the traditional sense, it is electing to use something without paying that represents someone else's income model. The example given of a painting is key - however many copies are made the artist should get a fair share as the originating creator.

There are too many barriers to ownership and use currently, and I do believe that rather than limit piracy the result has been to swell the ranks of knowing illegal pirates with people who wouldn't pirate if there was no DRM, no usage restrictions and re-sale was understood and accepted.

Better transparency of costs of a digital model and what is a fair charge would also help.

In the end piracy has always been around since the earliest availability of anything to pirate, but I believe corporations and international legal enforcement have gone in entirely the wrong direction to combat and control it.

The income models need to change though. They're still based in an archaic world whereby physical sales are dominant and can be controlled. By contrast, the modern world is connected on a global scale and very few companies have adapted to that change. Rather than fighting piracy through legislation, DRM and threats, companies should be looking to adapt and thrive by offering legal alternatives; effectively outcompeting the pirates. The music industry has started doing this in recent years. Hopefully the game and movie industries will take note.





For the record, it is ethically wrong to violate a valid copyright when there is a legal alternative.

And you know what? People can justify stealing. Pick an analogy; any analogy. But while your analogy likely is a matter of life and death, getting by and going under, "pirating" is not. If you knowingly do take what isn't yours, for no other reason than your own pleasure, then it is morally wrong as well. And by doing so, you should be prepared for whatever consequences arise from that decision.

If you're going to "pirate" entertainment for your own benefit, when an alternative exists, understand that whatever justification you present, it's still wrong to do it.



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pezus said:
Mr Khan said:
Porcupine_I said:
 

i cannot speak for others, but i personally cheered when the Berlin Mayor openly declared "i am gay and there is nothing wrong with it" but that arument is so much beside the point that i wouldn't even know where to begin to argue. but if you compare a perfectly natural emotion to pirating, then it is you who uses false arguments!

the point is, if he pirates because it's easier and cheaper he should say so, it would save him a lot of time and effort. but does he do it? no, because i feels it is not right. it doesn't even matter where this feeling of right and wrong comes from.

 

I often have problems elocuting the point i'm trying to make, and the fallaciousness of your earlier argument is the underlying idea that people who need to justify who they are have to be guilty of something, which is not the case. It sits in similar with the fallacy regarding privacy laws "if you don't have anything to hide, you shouldn't be worried." Your "if you felt fully moral in your actions, you wouldn't have to justify it," works similarly, and fails the acid test of argument due to those problems

You're projecting onto his motivations for not doing something that he is actually doing, a logical snarl. Although he does not overtly state it, his entire thesis revolves around the notion that "piracy is cheaper and easier and that's why i do it, because media should be cheaper and easier."

If I understand the word "to elocute" correctly and the bolded sentence in whole, I'd say your posts are exactly the opposite. Very clear and well explained

The word elocute is not correct.

I think he means he has trouble "articulating" the points he's trying to make.

Given his grammatically incorrect opening line I heartily agree !



Cypher1980 said:
pezus said:
Mr Khan said:
Porcupine_I said:
 

i cannot speak for others, but i personally cheered when the Berlin Mayor openly declared "i am gay and there is nothing wrong with it" but that arument is so much beside the point that i wouldn't even know where to begin to argue. but if you compare a perfectly natural emotion to pirating, then it is you who uses false arguments!

the point is, if he pirates because it's easier and cheaper he should say so, it would save him a lot of time and effort. but does he do it? no, because i feels it is not right. it doesn't even matter where this feeling of right and wrong comes from.

 

I often have problems elocuting the point i'm trying to make, and the fallaciousness of your earlier argument is the underlying idea that people who need to justify who they are have to be guilty of something, which is not the case. It sits in similar with the fallacy regarding privacy laws "if you don't have anything to hide, you shouldn't be worried." Your "if you felt fully moral in your actions, you wouldn't have to justify it," works similarly, and fails the acid test of argument due to those problems

You're projecting onto his motivations for not doing something that he is actually doing, a logical snarl. Although he does not overtly state it, his entire thesis revolves around the notion that "piracy is cheaper and easier and that's why i do it, because media should be cheaper and easier."

If I understand the word "to elocute" correctly and the bolded sentence in whole, I'd say your posts are exactly the opposite. Very clear and well explained

The word elocute is not correct.

I think he means he has trouble "articulating" the points he's trying to make.

Given his grammatically incorrect opening line I heartily agree !

Then what the hell does elocution mean?

For some reason i keep using that word with no idea of what i'm actually trying to say...



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