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Forums - Sales - Xbox 360 On Course to Become a Financial Success

What does it take for something to become a financial success you might be asking? Just to actually turn a profit? Or to make big bucks? Either way the X360 will do both.

First I'll give you the figures.

From July 1st 2004 (17 months before the X360's launch, FY 2004 likely included research) to June 30th 2007, the EDD made a loss of $3,738,000,000. This included the famed $1b set aside for RROD, and the losses from the X360 (as well as some from the original Xbox)

From July 1st 2007 to December 21st 2011, the EDD has made a profit of $3,356,000,000. This puts the division at a $382m loss since July 1st 2004.

Of course as I and many others have repeated over the years, the EDD became more complex in recent years, including the Kin, Windows Phone, and other smaller Microsoft Entertainment and Devices ventures. It is however largely agreed on (with facts to back it up) that nothing other than the X360 eco system in the EDD has made a sound profit, if at all. Take Kin for example, it lost as much as $240m for Microsoft, not including the $500m it cost Microsoft to buy Danger, and all the reasearch development.

It's likely the X360 began turning Microsoft a profit sometime last year.

Having made over $500m profit this Q in the EDD, profits don't seem to be fluctuating either way year over year lately, so it's a safe bet they're looking at another $1.9b profit from the EDD before the Q the 720 will supposively launch (Q4 2013). Of course 720 development costs will eat into that so it might be much lower, and even make a loss if they make a loss on units at launch, this doesn't stop the 360 from continuing to profit itself though, just the division. On the flip side, 360 should continue to sell into 720's early life and make a profit.

Overall the 360 venture could make Microsoft anywhere from $2.5 - $5b, or beyond. Just my rough estimates of course.



 

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Gives them enough room for a price cut as well, if they need it. Now that the 360 seems to be in the green.



 

Acevil said:
Gives them enough room for a price cut as well, if they need it. Now that the 360 seems to be in the green.


I wish they would cut the price. I want to get a second one for my moms room to use as a media hub. Especially with kinect if i can.



I thought xbox 360 was already a financial success , in fact I thought Wii and xbox360 were always a financial success minus the repairs



Thanks for this thread Seece. the 360 has been turning some rather incredible profits in the last couple of years and probably will be one of the most profitable consoles out there.



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well let's see xbox360 is nothing more than a $50 DVD player with maybe $25-35 added power for gaming, and they sell for $199 with only 4g hard drive
vs
WII with $50 DVD player and maybe $10 added power for gaming and they sell for $ 149 and i don't even know if it even has hard drive
vs
PS3 with $100 blue ray player with maybe $25-35 added power for gaming, and they sell for $249 with an 160g hard drive well with this one we have added hardware features like built in wifi and bluetooth not really sure the cost on that

so yeah xbox360 is more profitable to start with



curtisghall said:
well let's see xbox360 is nothing more than a $50 DVD player with maybe $25-35 added power for gaming, and they sell for $199 with only 4g hard drive
vs
WII with $50 DVD player and maybe $10 added power for gaming and they sell for $ 149 and i don't even know if it even has hard drive
vs
PS3 with $100 blue ray player with maybe $25-35 added power for gaming, and they sell for $249 with an 160g hard drive well with this one we have added hardware features like built in wifi and bluetooth not really sure the cost on that

so yeah xbox360 is more profitable to start with


I don't think costs work exactly that way.



 

Acevil said:
curtisghall said:
well let's see xbox360 is nothing more than a $50 DVD player with maybe $25-35 added power for gaming, and they sell for $199 with only 4g hard drive
vs
WII with $50 DVD player and maybe $10 added power for gaming and they sell for $ 149 and i don't even know if it even has hard drive
vs
PS3 with $100 blue ray player with maybe $25-35 added power for gaming, and they sell for $249 with an 160g hard drive well with this one we have added hardware features like built in wifi and bluetooth not really sure the cost on that

so yeah xbox360 is more profitable to start with


I don't think costs work exactly that way.

The random and uniformed numbers seem legit to me.



Acevil said:
curtisghall said:
well let's see xbox360 is nothing more than a $50 DVD player with maybe $25-35 added power for gaming, and they sell for $199 with only 4g hard drive
vs
WII with $50 DVD player and maybe $10 added power for gaming and they sell for $ 149 and i don't even know if it even has hard drive
vs
PS3 with $100 blue ray player with maybe $25-35 added power for gaming, and they sell for $249 with an 160g hard drive well with this one we have added hardware features like built in wifi and bluetooth not really sure the cost on that

so yeah xbox360 is more profitable to start with


I don't think costs work exactly that way.

Haha yeah not even close. Who pays 50 bucks for a DVD drive ?
$15 for DVD drive $60 for Blu-Ray drive and that are just the prices that we get. Obviously it will be even cheaper in mass production for Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft.
However certainly much more than $10-35 for processor, RAM and GPU and other hardware bits.