Sometimes yes, because overshipping means that there is a lot of stock out there and retailers don't need to restock that frequently, which means that a lot of money has to be saved to be able to maintain the company, rather than being able to spend the income in further investements, I don't know about MS in particular but lets assume we have Company X.

Company X is shipping all its products once a year on July 13th, they get for all their products 12 mio. dollars, to mentain their business they have to spend 750,000 $ a month, the rest of the money will be invested or cashed out to the owners as profits which means that they have a balance of pretty much 0 after one year, now it turns out that their products wheren't as popular as they were predicted to be and a lot of retailers still have enough stock to go for another 6 months without restocking, so the retailers will only buy products worth 6 mio. dollars, which means that the company has to use previous investements to finance their next year. (This is a pretty simple example of a company (which has the worst market strategy I have ever seen) but you could use it for every company out there which has no direct distribution to the customer if you make the time between shipments shorter)

And if that is the case they would have done exactly the same for Wii and PS3.

And yet Sony has been accussed of Channel stuffing with the PS3 by every X360 fanboy every Nov-Dec since always.

But yeah, I agree, channel stuffing is BS and any overshipment is due to retailers over ordering from MS. Either that or the retailers and MS have some sort of agreement wherein MS can ship as many as possible to retailers to ensure availability of stocks of the X360 during the holiday season and the retailers have the option to return excess stocks after december or something.

I'm confused.

VGC said PS3 had won this year by 300k. If the 360 is overtracked by 1.2m and the PS3 by 300k, doesn't that mean that the PS3 won by 1.2m? Or is there something I'm forgetting? I'm new to this.

After all adjustments... 660k.

But I expect more adjustments soon... so everything can change.

So VGC isn't using the NPD, or have they adjusted other regions?

Wow, that's pretty bad. So PS3 did better comparatively then we thought, nice.

I miss that time.

Actually after that crazy November in US for X360 maybe retailers thought X360 could do numbers Wii pulled in the past and now market is flooding in X360s? This is of course speculation. It' just too out of place to X360 suddenly start selling so much better across the globe without even price cut. PAL charts have been pretty usual as well (Multi titles selling better on PS3). We shall see in April though with new shipment reports.

Did you just say channel suffing doesn't exist? seriously someone, help me find the millions of times you have accused Sony of doing so. I don't know what's worst the vgchartz numbers before npd or MS saying they sold more than 66 million before the NPD.