No where in any of my recent posts did I say it would outsell it (I know my posts read a bit long, but there's stuff that says stuff in there amongst the blahblahoftext!) - just that rather than 3:1 - that ratio may have been closer to 2.5/2/1.5 : 1 in some areas. I find the thought of it selling 1:1 in Australia in the science fiction realms of highly highly very very improbable!

I agree man. While not the end of THE discussion per se - but the end of THIS discussion. Numbers forthcoming!

Nothing to see here - move along.

It's been fun, you were all great!

When the manufacturer said "sold", it always means "sold to resellers" aka "shipped" unless they mention it is retail sales.

I don't think someone here really believed that it is "sold to consumers".

However, more than 66mm shipped is still a huge achievement for Microsoft.

So PS3 won 2011.

Good for them!

to fedfed:

If we talk about which console was the most purchased in 2011 by the consumers in the market, PS3 has the huge chance to remain the victory like what it did in the past few years;

If we talk about which console manufacturer sold the most units in 2011, Microsoft still has a slight chance to take the crown.

As far as MS is concerned, "sold to retailers" is the most important thing for its finances, as "sold to retailers" means "paid to MS", and this could make solar year 2011 and solar Q4 2011 the best ever for XB360, a huge achievement for a console launched in 2005.

If due to November sales retailers overestimated possible December ones and the stocks needed, the biggest problem is for them, they'll have to make clearance sales offers even crazier than BF ones to sell them.

Excess stocks could hit Q1 2012 numbers for MS, though, but, first, it's a slow quarter anyway, second, retailers will have to bite the bullet and take the burden to make the offers necessary to empty their shelves and stores, and wholesalers their warehouses, and they can't blame MS if they ordered excessive stocks, OTOH they coudn't anyway risk shortages if Xmas happened to be bigger than a huge BF in the same usual proportion of previous years, so it was a gamble they couldn't reject. It must also be said that it's quite likely that MS could make them happy again doing that long awaited price cut this year. Finally, even better offers than BF ones will benefit SW houses a little bit, leaving in the buyers' pockets more money for games.

And whichever the winner, both PS3 and XB360 must be considered winners actually, as with completely different strategies along the year they both beat Wii, that's still the market lifetime leader, but was also once considered unbeatable and destined to disrupt their businesses, sending Sony bankrupt and kicking MS out of the console business.

Edit:

PS: About my last statement, it looks like I was right and Malstrom was wrong.            

Who cares no system flopped this gen its all about preference and cost,

I do think with 360 rebuys trade ins and gift card incentives and upgrades to special editions or new 360 slims Ps3 has already outsold 360 by at least a million WW.

I can't say now but in early of 2011 the PS3 outsold 360 lifetime.

lol "We're the world hardware leader for 2011". weird wording. why not just say xbox 360 was the top selling home console in 2011

Most likely because it wasn't.  Like I said in another thread, there's nothing that a fan shouldn't be proud of concerning the 360.  It's still selling well in its 6th year on the market.  But its another thing to ignore all the signs (NPD, France's numbers, Media Create, PS3 passing the 360 in Aus for 2011) and expect the 360 to be undertracked by so much in the remaining regions.  Especially when the remaining regions, for the most part, are the ones that the PS3 sell better in.  Or expect VGC to just bow to MS's shipment update tomorrow (they already adjusted to it once and had to change the numbers), regardless of what other professional tracking agencies are showing.