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Smeags on 06 January 2012
rocketpig said:

I also wondered about how Dumbledore defeated Grindelwald when he had the Elder Wand. But given the rest of the book's theme about how the pursuit for power and objects is nothing more than folly, I'll give Rowling the benefit of the doubt and just say the point is that nothing is "all powerful", even the Elder Wand. It's just a really, really good wand.

Indeed, as Voldemort and Dumbledore dueled to a virtual standstill in Order of the Phoenix despite Dumbledore's mastery of the Elder Wand.

Also, I'll add another fantastic moment in Deathly Hallows: the death and revelation of Severus Snape. An incredibly powerful moment to be sure... and one I think they captured wonderfully on the big screen. Especially with Alexandre Desplat's composition.



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TWRoO on 06 January 2012
Smeags said:
rocketpig said:

I also wondered about how Dumbledore defeated Grindelwald when he had the Elder Wand. But given the rest of the book's theme about how the pursuit for power and objects is nothing more than folly, I'll give Rowling the benefit of the doubt and just say the point is that nothing is "all powerful", even the Elder Wand. It's just a really, really good wand.

Indeed, as Voldemort and Dumbledore dueled to a virtual standstill in Order of the Phoenix despite Dumbledore's mastery of the Elder Wand.

Also, I'll add another fantastic moment in Deathly Hallows: the death and revelation of Severus Snape. An incredibly powerful moment to be sure... and one I think they captured wonderfully on the big screen. Especially with Alexandre Desplat's composition.

Well for the former fight Dumbledore was the superior wizard, the wand is just a wand even if it helped Grindelwald become powerful. Also we don't get any specifics of what happened in that duel.
In the second fight Dumbledore is old. Hell he must be a minimum of 80, while Voldemonrt is in a body he created himself a year before.... also it's a lot easier to destroy than protect, Dumbledore had to protect Harry and himself and try to trap or repel Voldemort, while Voldemort was trying to kill them both.



rocketpig on 06 January 2012
TWRoO said:
Smeags said:
rocketpig said:

I also wondered about how Dumbledore defeated Grindelwald when he had the Elder Wand. But given the rest of the book's theme about how the pursuit for power and objects is nothing more than folly, I'll give Rowling the benefit of the doubt and just say the point is that nothing is "all powerful", even the Elder Wand. It's just a really, really good wand.

Indeed, as Voldemort and Dumbledore dueled to a virtual standstill in Order of the Phoenix despite Dumbledore's mastery of the Elder Wand.

Also, I'll add another fantastic moment in Deathly Hallows: the death and revelation of Severus Snape. An incredibly powerful moment to be sure... and one I think they captured wonderfully on the big screen. Especially with Alexandre Desplat's composition.

Well for the former fight Dumbledore was the superior wizard, the wand is just a wand even if it helped Grindelwald become powerful. Also we don't get any specifics of what happened in that duel.
In the second fight Dumbledore is old. Hell he must be a minimum of 80, while Voldemonrt is in a body he created himself a year before.... also it's a lot easier to destroy than protect, Dumbledore had to protect Harry and himself and try to trap or repel Voldemort, while Voldemort was trying to kill them both.

I was going to respond but I'll just +1 TWRoO instead. Dumbledore had a lot going against him in that fight and he still fought Voldemort to a standstill, really. Voldemort was scared of Dumbledore for ages, which is why he never tried to take Hogwart's and that was before he knew Dumbledore was carrying the Elder Wand.




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PlaystaionGamer on 06 January 2012

i really love them, i will re read them when they come out for the Kindle.
currently I'm reading The Lord of the Rings + all the split offs. i really hope that JK Rowing returns to the Harry Potter world with maybe 3/4 books about the first time Voldamort came to power, maybe following harrys dad james. brining the series into a dark adult writing that it was almost in seeing at the main protagonist this time would be a man and not a boy



ishiki on 06 January 2012

I like them a lot... they're current day star wars, imo. (yes I've read the books), but, the mix of fantasy, drama and fun, is quite similar to me.

However, I hate multiple aspects of the ending. Felt it was a cop out. :-/



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NotStan on 06 January 2012
Mordred11 said:
NotStan said:
I thought movies didn't do the books much justice and have stopped watching them after the Goblet of Fire, Prisoner of Azkaban was particularly atrocious to me.

As books they are OK - better than most but not the best to me.

Film wise it's just too mainstream, oversimplified, and in some cases parts of the plot are missing - otherwise the films would have been extensively long, more of an entertainment than story telling.

Although there are fantasy books that I rate higher than Potter, it's still good to see an author of a BOOK garner this much success in such a short time.

That's pretty ironic,since most of the fans consider PoA to be the best HP movie after DH2.And I'm one of them .


I can't recall EXACTLY which bits were missing, but I've re-read the book a few weeks before I watched the movie, and I just remember myself sighing and facepalming after certain things were altered or missing.

Again, I haven't read the series in the long time, and I think I've borrowed DH a week after it came out, read it in few days and gave it back



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Smeags on 06 January 2012
rocketpig said:
TWRoO said:

Well for the former fight Dumbledore was the superior wizard, the wand is just a wand even if it helped Grindelwald become powerful. Also we don't get any specifics of what happened in that duel.
In the second fight Dumbledore is old. Hell he must be a minimum of 80, while Voldemonrt is in a body he created himself a year before.... also it's a lot easier to destroy than protect, Dumbledore had to protect Harry and himself and try to trap or repel Voldemort, while Voldemort was trying to kill them both.

I was going to respond but I'll just +1 TWRoO instead. Dumbledore had a lot going against him in that fight and he still fought Voldemort to a standstill, really. Voldemort was scared of Dumbledore for ages, which is why he never tried to take Hogwart's and that was before he knew Dumbledore was carrying the Elder Wand.

I really didn't mean to get into a ______ vs. ______ thing (which goes against one of the core themes in HP anyways, that power just for power's sake ultimately leads to one's downfall). I was just supporting your point that the Elder Wand isn't "unbeatable" as the Three Brothers fable said.



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rocketpig on 06 January 2012

Ah, okay. Then there's nothing to see here, folks. Move along. :D




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MontanaHatchet on 06 January 2012

Somehow I knew this would be a Rocketpig thread even before entering it, but I certainly didn't expect it to be positive.

Glad to see you enjoyed the series. Rowling is certainly a talented writer (the 3rd book being my favorite).



 

 

dsage01 on 06 January 2012

Harry potter is one of the most engrossing tales I've read or watched. I have read the whole series about 6-7 times and I own them as well. But some of the motion pictures didn't exactly do "justice" to the book. Such as the 5th and 6th books were excellent and the films failed to bring that same feeling that I received while I was reading the book. I don't know what spoiled it the acting or the bad direction. Although other than that all the films were great and I enjoyed them. And I loved the ending how they didn't celebrate Voldemort's death despite he causing them so much distress. Also how when Harry Potter broke the elder wand and his friends didn't question him why. It just shows despite how much pain the hero's in the film/book have they weren't after power nor they did want Voldemort's death. They just wanted to do what's right. That's what separates the hero's from the villain's. And believe it or not that's what I liked best about the film/book. And if you haven't read Star Wars, or Lord of the Rings I would recommend you to do so. The books and films are excellent.