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selnor said:

 

Today, the stunning new smartphone was awarded the Editor’s Choice at the What Mobile Awards 2011 at London’s Whisky Mist.

The decision was reached after thousands of readers voted for their favourite new phones, apps and networks during October on the magazine’s website

SOURCE

 

This is just blatantly misleading.

While not actually saying so, the second sentence (with bold letters) for example clearly suggests that this award was based on a voting from "thousands of readers".

In practice however it was quite the contrary - it seems that out the the 18 awards that "What Mobile" announced, THIS was the only award that NOT the readers voted upon.

The real, main award that the readers voted upon is not the "Mobile Phone of the year" award, which went to the Android Smartphone Samsung Galaxy S2. The Nokia Lumia 800 that won this dubious "Editor's Choice Award" was not even available when the readers voted - in fact, it was released only ONE day before this award was announced, so one can seriously wonder how the editors were even able to judge absolutely all aspects (durability, battery life etc.) of a phone that was released only one day before, and when even their first review of the phone appeared about 10 days later.

And what does "Editor's choice award" even mean but "an extremely small group of individuals, namely one or more editors of a magazine, declared this particular phone to be the best of the year, for whatever reason"? There is no factual information behind this award whatsoever, not even any hint of popularity.

And the thread title is simply wrong, as neither of the provided sources claim something like this. As mentioned before, "What Mobile" does indeed announce a "Mobile Phone of the year" award, but that went to an Android phone. The second source on the other hand lists not only one, but 4 "best smartphones of 2011": one WP7 phone, one iPhone and two Android devices - so that source doesn't justify the thread title as well.


Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the Nokia Lumia 800 (or Windows Phone 7 in general) isn't great - I really cannot judge at all, so far I have never even seen any WP7 phone in reality that I could get my hands on. All I want to point out is how pointless it is to give any meaning to this particular award, and how the information is presented in a seemingly consciously misleading way.

In a way, this thread feels more like some people are so desperately trying to convince themselves how great WP7 is that they are already starting to fool themselves by applauding almost irrelevant awards.



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Windows Phones have a great UI and are an absolute joy to use but they won't be stealing any awards from Samsung Galaxies, Nexuses and Iphone 4S's...yet.



ArnoldRimmer said:
selnor said:

 

Today, the stunning new smartphone was awarded the Editor’s Choice at the What Mobile Awards 2011 at London’s Whisky Mist.

The decision was reached after thousands of readers voted for their favourite new phones, apps and networks during October on the magazine’s website

SOURCE

 

This is just blatantly misleading.

While not actually saying so, the second sentence (with bold letters) for example clearly suggests that this award was based on a voting from "thousands of readers".

In practice however it was quite the contrary - it seems that out the the 18 awards that "What Mobile" announced, THIS was the only award that NOT the readers voted upon.

The real, main award that the readers voted upon is not the "Mobile Phone of the year" award, which went to the Android Smartphone Samsung Galaxy S2. The Nokia Lumia 800 that won this dubious "Editor's Choice Award" was not even available when the readers voted - in fact, it was released only ONE day before this award was announced, so one can seriously wonder how the editors were even able to judge absolutely all aspects (durability, battery life etc.) of a phone that was released only one day before, and when even their first review of the phone appeared about 10 days later.

And what does "Editor's choice award" even mean but "an extremely small group of individuals, namely one or more editors of a magazine, declared this particular phone to be the best of the year, for whatever reason"? There is no factual information behind this award whatsoever, not even any hint of popularity.

And the thread title is simply wrong, as neither of the provided sources claim something like this. As mentioned before, "What Mobile" does indeed announce a "Mobile Phone of the year" award, but that went to an Android phone. The second source on the other hand lists not only one, but 4 "best smartphones of 2011": one WP7 phone, one iPhone and two Android devices - so that source doesn't justify the thread title as well.


Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the Nokia Lumia 800 (or Windows Phone 7 in general) isn't great - I really cannot judge at all, so far I have never even seen any WP7 phone in reality that I could get my hands on. All I want to point out is how pointless it is to give any meaning to this particular award, and how the information is presented in a seemingly consciously misleading way.

In a way, this thread feels more like some people are so desperately trying to convince themselves how great WP7 is that they are already starting to fool themselves by applauding almost irrelevant awards.

Might as well quote the link to the full list of awards to avoid further arguement on context:

http://www.whatmobile.net/2011/11/what-mobile-awards-2011-the-results/

I will say the Lumia does look nice though.  I do think it will appeal once it's had time on the market.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

I bought a Focus when it launched and loved it. Recently got a Titan and my wife got the Focus S. Both excellent phones. And yes, WP7 is freaking amazing.



Mobile Phone of the Year
Samsung Galaxy S2




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psrock said:
Mobile Phone of the Year
Samsung Galaxy S2




Yeah, this threads title is completly misleading, which is why the OP abandoned it, lol.

 

Great for the S2. Easily the best phone out there right now.

 

 

Here are the full What Mobile Winners:

 

Mobile Phone of the Year
Samsung Galaxy S2

Editor’s Choice Award
Nokia Lumia 800

Best Touchscreen Phone
iPhone 4

Best Non-Touchscreen Phone
Motorola GLEAM

Best Phone for Business
iPhone 4

Best Phone for Multimedia
Samsung Galaxy SII

Best Tablet
iPad 2

Best Mobile Game

Angry Birds

Best Application – Tools
Google +

Best Application – Productivity
eBay

Best Application – Navigation
TomTom

Best Application – Social
Facebook (official)

Best Mobile Service
Carphone Warehouse Music Anywhere

Best Online Retailer
buymobilephones.net

Best High Street Retailer
Carphone Warehouse

Best Mobile Broadband Provider
O2

Best Network
O2

Best Manufacturer
Apple



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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but how did Apple win "Best Manufacturer" when they don't manufacture their own devices?



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Euphoria14 said:
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but how did Apple win "Best Manufacturer" when they don't manufacture their own devices?


So you think Foxconn should have just been given the award by acclamation? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#Clients

As far as I can tell, the biggest phone manufacturer which doesn't deal with Foxconn is LG.They're not listed in that link, but Foxconn has also been known to assemble phones for HTC and RIM. 

And that's what Foxconn does, assemble parts. Foxconn is the final supplier in the chain who takes the chips, batteries, and displays and mounts them in a case. Many of the components in a smartphone cost more than assembly, so why not call the maker of the display or the NAND the "manufacturer"?

Those parts and how they're assembled have been designed, ordered and paid for by the real manufacturers to their specifications. If you don't think that any of these phone companies are actually "manufacturers" because they contract out assembly of their products, you basically think that intellectual property has no value and nothing is worth more than the sum of its parts. Time to wake up and smell the information economy.



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Jexy said:

They get great reviews on cnet.com which I respect their opinion greatly, so that was my original reason for picking the Focus as my new phone.   I have a WP7 on ATT myself, and it is flawless. My fiance has a Galaxy android on Verizon, and it's complete crap. It's newer and cost more than mine too. But her screen always freezes, whether it's the internet or texting, or even sometimes the main menu screen. Half the screen goes blank sometimes and when she flips it on its side to get a wide view, it sometimes just doesn't work. I don't know if this is Verizon (many people I know have problems with them) or that particular droid, but she wants to switch to a WP7 and ATT as soon as her contract is up. The only thing that WP7 doesn't have going for it, is the massive amounts of apps that the others have, but it's getting up there, and it has everything I need, so I'm happy. The maps are also great on WP7, I just moved to a new area and use it all the time and it's flawless. My fiance's droid can't find anything, including where we are, assuming it even works that far. We've brought it into Verizon too, they say they can't do anything. Weaksauce.


Cool story bro. 

I love these stories. Nobody who has a Galaxy S2 phone has a big problem, and quite a bit of the trustworthy sites named it the best phone of the year( or the Galaxy Nexus). People are happy with it and sales show that. The only people not happy are WP7 owners. Thankfully there aren't many.

And LOL at waves comment as well.



Except it doesn't have half as good apps or half as much apps as the iPhone 4s.