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CrazzyMan said:
rocketpig said:
CrazzyMan said:
@mrstickball:
ps3 outsold x360 WW in December. IS that not enough fr you? ;)

What about the other 13 months the PS3 has competed against the 360?

"with your sig where you say where you say Folklore, HS, Lair, UT3, and such"

All these games weren`t on the market during those 13 month. =)


Uh-huh. And out of the games in your sig, let's take a look at those that are exclusive and have sold over one million:

... 

Wait, there aren't any. Only two of those games sold over one million and both are also on the 360, where they sold many more copies.




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@rocketpig:

ps3 outsold x360 WW in December. IS that not enough fr you? ;)
Wait, there aren't any. Only two of those games sold over one million and both are also on the 360, where they sold many more copies.
we were speaking about HARDWARE sales, why you started to discuss software? =)



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

CrazzyMan said:
@rocketpig:
ps3 outsold x360 WW in December. IS that not enough fr you? ;)
Wait, there aren't any. Only two of those games sold over one million and both are also on the 360, where they sold many more copies.
we were speaking about HARDWARE sales, why you started to discuss software? =)

Uh, because you brought it up?




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I don't think its the end, how could it be with good HW and SW sales (in US at least) but MS does face challenges maintaining growth outsided US and beyond hardcore FPS/Driving crowd is US.

I think this article states their position pretty well:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=32020

I think MS has done well with 360 overall but I felt that, starting with Xbox, their strategy was flawed in that it would limit them to a hardcore audience seeking a PC like experiene (and online play) at a fraction of the cost. I think 360 is still stuck in this box and that if MS don't come up with effective strategies it will soon start to meet the 'glass ceiling' this would place on the consoles growth.

As for Sony, they face just as many, if different, challenges IMO. They really confused the hell out of the market, were too early with an expensive media centre (even though I wanted one so thanks for catering to me and my minority market, BTW), they lost sight of what made PS2 so successful - 3rd party support and a massive spread of genres - and really overpushed BR nd media capabilities (not to mention undersupported devs and overestimated their allegience). They have good brand and are starting to make progress but really, PS3 is having to work hard to catch up right now, particularly in US.

I nonetheless wish them both well in a competative market and thank them for (I think) enabling me to move from expensive PC gaming to less expensive console gaming.

As for Nintendo - right now they're like Pixar movies, they can do no wrong with their latest console crushing 360 and PS3 in 12 months (and software starting to do the same) while they continue to own the handheld market.



@rocketpig:
when i was speaking about software sales? =))
btw how many x360 exclusives sold over 1 mln. in 2006? =)))

@EliteStance:
of`course consoles don`t die in one day, just like HD DVD will be here for some time, BUT, this is start, don`t you think so? =)



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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CrazzyMan said:
@rocketpig:
when i was speaking about software sales? =))
btw how many x360 exclusives sold over 1 mln. in 2006? =)))

You brought up those games as "system sellers", yet not one of them has eclipsed 1m sold yet.

Something doesn't click there...

As for 360 exclusives that sold over 1m, I'll include two console exclusives but here's the list:

Gears of War, GRAW, Oblivion, and Call of Duty 2. Dead Rising also may have done it but the data is hard to tell whether it broke 1m in 2007 or not.

You lose. Try again. Four or five games vs. zero.

 




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@rocketpig:
THESE games sold PS3 to NEW users.
That means ALL games moved PS3 sales. Just because these games didn`t made over 1 mln., THAT doesn`t mean, they didn`t sold PS3. Which was proven with PS3 outselling x360 in December, when ALL these games were available.
Enjoy. ;)

GRAW, Oblivion, and Call of Duty 2 were also available on PC.
geow - 1 game. WOW. =))
DR DIDN`T sell 1 mln in 2006, i clearly remember that.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

CrazzyMan said:
@rocketpig:
THESE games sold PS3 to NEW users.
That means ALL games moved PS3 sales. Just because these games didn`t made over 1 mln., THAT doesn`t mean, they didn`t sold PS3. Which was proven with PS3 outselling x360 in December, when ALL these games were available.
Enjoy. ;)

GRAW, Oblivion, and Call of Duty 2 were also available on PC.
geow - 1 game. WOW. =))
DR DIDN`T sell 1 mln in 2006, i clearly remember that.

Sigh... You're an idiot. I'm done with you.




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Fine, run out of arguments. =)



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

So let me get this straight. The 360 sold more with no competition than they did when they had 2 competitors? That's truly mind blowing.