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By the way, since spring 2006 DS started seriously outselling psp, because ds lite came.
The difference was only 5 mln. now 35 mln.

Who knows, maybe psp lite also has it`s chances to improve on the market.



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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Squall_Leonhart said:

I understand what you guys mean, i also fall into that 3rd as the graphics of the DS is one of the reasons i do not own one, but if there is a PSP 2 i would want there to actually be games on the system, if it had those specs i don't see any dev wanting to risk the dev costs of that magnitude on a handheld...

Also handheld games are meant to be cheaper than home consoles, but with dev costs matching that of the PS3/360 they would have to charge more to make a profit... I just don't think that will happen! 

Yea, I agree with you, but I also think development costs is an issue industry wide. Hopefully something will happen globally to combat this. If there is a PSP2, I expect it to be 2-4 years out. Hopefully by then, someone can fix this issue with better development support (being a developer myself, I am skeptical that it will happen)

 

Zucas said:

Oh yes use the same strategy used for PSP, that ultimatley led to it getting crushed by the DS.  Implement that with the PSP2 and of course now it'll have success.  Get serious.  If they use the exact same strategy as they did with the PSP, then they'll get creamed once again.  Live and learn Sony.  Find out what made DS a success, and implement it in your own way.  Its the only way to succeed. 


With this logic, Sony and MS should never release another home console. The Wii will outsell them both, so because you can't compete sales wise when you push the technology envelop, you should stop doing it.

What the PSP is, is exactly what I wanted in a handheld. Just becuse we are the minority does not mean there is no market for it. The PSP is not a failure, and the PSP2 won't be either. You don't have to be #1 to be a success.



With time one would believe that eventually, given bankroll, Sony will be able to outsell a nintendo handheld within the next decade.

DS technically is a just a gimmick, "crap graphics, awkward goofy games and TWO screens woahhhhhhhhh"..psp is clearly more advanced and I know even hardcore xbox fans tend to own psp's, go figure lol.

Much like Sega in the past, Sony has managed to come into (said) market and take 50% of Nintendo's fanbase, so yes of coarse within the next decade it's a 50/50 bet that Sony has a chance to create a handheld that will beat a nintendo handheld. We see it now, more content, prettier content, media capabilities...as we look for more out of our handheld devices Sony machines will draw more focus then "kiddy" items like the nintendo franchise handhelds.

It's a natural evolution of consumer needs and wants, Im plannng on buying a psp after hearing about the ps3/psp bluray remote play functions, can't get that out of any nintendo handheld lol. ..and yes a next generation psp will come, then another and then another, etc etc...



MrMafoo said:

With this logic, Sony and MS should never release another home console. The Wii will outsell them both, so because you can't compete sales wise when you push the technology envelop, you should stop doing it.

What the PSP is, is exactly what I wanted in a handheld. Just becuse we are the minority does not mean there is no market for it. The PSP is not a failure, and the PSP2 won't be either. You don't have to be #1 to be a success.


Look at the PSP's software sales and tell me its a success. The PSP may not be losing money (suppossedly), but ask yourself, is that what Sony wanted the PSP to be? A mediocre portable multi-media novelty that treads water in the market or did they want a device that would spring board the success of their propriotary portable format UMD for video and movies and dominate the handheld gaming market usurping Nintendo from its second throne? The PSP has achieved nothing of what Sony originally intended it for, can you really call that a success? I suppose you can, but only if you lower your standard for what can be considered a success.

 
inFamous. said:
With time one would believe that eventually, given bankroll, Sony will be able to outsell a nintendo handheld within the next decade.

DS technically is a just a gimmick, "crap graphics, awkward goofy games and TWO screens woahhhhhhhhh"..psp is clearly more advanced and I know even hardcore xbox fans tend to own psp's, go figure lol.

Much like Sega in the past, Sony has managed to come into (said) market and take 50% of Nintendo's fanbase, so yes of coarse within the next decade it's a 50/50 bet that Sony has a chance to create a handheld that will beat a nintendo handheld. We see it now, more content, prettier content, media capabilities...as we look for more out of our handheld devices Sony machines will draw more focus then "kiddy" items like the nintendo franchise handhelds.

It's a natural evolution of consumer needs and wants, Im plannng on buying a psp after hearing about the ps3/psp bluray remote play functions, can't get that out of any nintendo handheld lol. ..and yes a next generation psp will come, then another and then another, etc etc...

Actually the PSP has only taken less than 33% of the market in terms of hardware sales and abismally less in software. There's no indication the PSP stole anything from Nintendo, rather more likely that it created its own multi-media niche that appealed largely to PS2 and Xbox gamers that didn't feel like investing in a Game Boy.

Since it will be virtually impossible for Sony to recapture third party support for their handheld market and they're obligated to continuing pushing secondary features of the PSP which became more desireable than the PSP's ability to play games, its unlikely we'll see any Sony handheld ever outsell a Nintendo one, at least as a gaming console.

I understand your reasoning and logic, but you clearly don't grasp the situation here. You're only looking at hardware sales, not the software sales and then compounding that misconception by making the erroneous assumption that the PSP has in anyway stole any significant part of Nintendo's fanbase when not only has the DS emerged as Nintendo's most successful handheld ever but the PSP showcases no games that were ever really that of the Gameboy's legacy.



Technically the DS is certainly not the leading edge portable in performance far from it.
But it has it's own strengths in spite of being overpowered seriously by the PSP.
The lower performance and thus lower cost has boosted it's sales well above the PSP,
however people buy them for competley different reasons.

PSP is a portable multimedia powerhouse , with a graphical capability exceeding any other device of this size - (2 Mips4000 CPUS at 333Mhz and a dual 128bit custom graphics chipset in a 200gram bar), with a decent sized LCD and 64Mb ram, wifi, add on camera, GPS receiver ,DTV tuner etc.

The price hardly reflects the technology in it anyone after a portable movie player , or graphically intensive games player here it is. Selling over 20 Million units is outstanding.

Think many people who get them get it not for it's games but the multimedia capability, and if the skype software for it works ok i will probably get one just for that feature .



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The DS holds some of the best games ever created. That's what really matters to me.



routsounmanman said:
leo-j said:
Ask the gamecube ;p

Off topic:

The next gen psp need to have these features

1. 360 level graphics
2. HD 720p screen
3. another analog stick
4. embedded 3.0MP camera
5.improved flash player and interenet browser

6. HDD, with 128mb of ram, and atleast 8GB of Harddrive space.

Last but not least:

7. Smaller than the psp-2000

Almost 3 years later and some people still don't understand why PSP failed...

I like this system. Of course, there will need to be tradeoffs to have it smaller than the PSP-2000. Obviously, the battery will have to be a separate unit, about as large as the PSP itself. That should provide an hour of battery life.

And Sony would have to find a good price point for this new system, one that doesn't lose them too much money. One that makes people think "I will work harder to buy one." I think people will be willing to get two jobs to save up for a PSP2. Better start working that second job, leo-j.

Of course, a 720p screen that is smaller than the current PSP screen would require an astounding 300 DPI. Sony will have to spend billions on research to provide such an amazing screen. Sony would of course, never get this money back, as they would have to sell the unit at a considerable loss in order for people to actually buy it (is this sounding familiar, anyone?). It's a good thing Sony is such a nice charitable company, willing to throw money away in order to provide us with such an amazing entertainment unit.



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They will try at least once ... I see sales for the PSP to reach the 60 million + levels LTD , and with decent software sales , they could make a wonderfull debut ... Im really looking forward to it :D



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Onimusha12 said:
MrMafoo said:

With this logic, Sony and MS should never release another home console. The Wii will outsell them both, so because you can't compete sales wise when you push the technology envelop, you should stop doing it.

What the PSP is, is exactly what I wanted in a handheld. Just becuse we are the minority does not mean there is no market for it. The PSP is not a failure, and the PSP2 won't be either. You don't have to be #1 to be a success.


Look at the PSP's software sales and tell me its a success. The PSP may not be losing money (suppossedly), but ask yourself, is that what Sony wanted the PSP to be? A mediocre portable multi-media novelty that treads water in the market or did they want a device that would spring board the success of their propriotary portable format UMD for video and movies and dominate the handheld gaming market usurping Nintendo from its second throne? The PSP has achieved nothing of what Sony originally intended it for, can you really call that a success? I suppose you can, but only if you lower your standard for what can be considered a success.

I don’t care what Sony wanted, I care what I want. The PSP is what I want. I am a working professional that can afford any toy I want within reason (If I want to spend 300 bucks on something, I just do it). I don’t own a DS, and it’s not because I care if it’s better than the PSP or not. I have no restrictions on me that keep me from owning both. The DS offers nothing I want. It’s a great system if you are in the market for what the DS provides.

It’s funny, you have these threads on here that say “What’s your favorite game of 2007” and when you read them, you seen 100 different answers, and all of them are right. People have different desires when it comes to gamming, and there is not one game that can make everyone happy. Why do people think there needs to be (or can be) one system that makes everyone happy?

P.S. Sony will turn a profit on the PSP, and being the gaming industry as a whole is growing, will stand to make a bigger profit the next time around. They will make a PSP2.



did microsoft gave up on the xbox ?



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