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oniyide on 07 December 2011
disolitude said:
I think this isn't a situation where a Wii port would have been easy and it probably would have cost them more money than its worth. It looks like that the dev platform for this was the PC version and comparing that version to the HD consoles almost makes it appear like a next generation game.

Compared to the PC which looks phenomenal and plays butter smooth, the HD twins are stuck with 30 fps (or less), sub 720p resolution, washed out colors, jaggies all over the place so essentially they are already a downgraded ports. The 30 fps really hurts the experience and I really don't think that Sega could have downgraded the game any further for the Wii without a major overhaul to the game.

Funny thing is that I made this exact thread a year and a half ago when I heard Sonic Colors is not coming to Ps360. Luckily then I discovered Dolphin...


Is the PC version that much better? I have it for PS3 and I didnt notice any problems. You're right that downgrading to WIi would not have been easy and it probably would have sucked and people most likely would have picked up the HD version like they do for most games anyway, but they still coulda taken the 3ds verison and put it on WIi just to calm the vocal minority down



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disolitude on 08 December 2011
oniyide said:
disolitude said:
I think this isn't a situation where a Wii port would have been easy and it probably would have cost them more money than its worth. It looks like that the dev platform for this was the PC version and comparing that version to the HD consoles almost makes it appear like a next generation game.

Compared to the PC which looks phenomenal and plays butter smooth, the HD twins are stuck with 30 fps (or less), sub 720p resolution, washed out colors, jaggies all over the place so essentially they are already a downgraded ports. The 30 fps really hurts the experience and I really don't think that Sega could have downgraded the game any further for the Wii without a major overhaul to the game.

Funny thing is that I made this exact thread a year and a half ago when I heard Sonic Colors is not coming to Ps360. Luckily then I discovered Dolphin...


Is the PC version that much better? I have it for PS3 and I didnt notice any problems. You're right that downgrading to WIi would not have been easy and it probably would have sucked and people most likely would have picked up the HD version like they do for most games anyway, but they still coulda taken the 3ds verison and put it on WIi just to calm the vocal minority down


It really is. I bought and beat the 360 version first and too didn't see any issues with the games visuals.

Then I tried the PC version and since I've traded the 360 version. It really looks far superior on the PC, mostly due to much crisper collors and twice the frame rate. Also Sonic Generations looks great in 3D and PC version here really shines. 1080p per eye vs 360p upscaled to 720p...not contest really.

They possibly could have ported the 3DS verson to the Wii like you mentioned, but it probably wouldn't look so hot on a big screen. 3DS hides a lot of detail loss with 3D and a smaller screen.

Unfortunately I think that for this game, Wii was just stuck between beeing not good enough and too good to port either version of the game.



oniyide on 12 December 2011
disolitude said:
oniyide said:
disolitude said:
I think this isn't a situation where a Wii port would have been easy and it probably would have cost them more money than its worth. It looks like that the dev platform for this was the PC version and comparing that version to the HD consoles almost makes it appear like a next generation game.

Compared to the PC which looks phenomenal and plays butter smooth, the HD twins are stuck with 30 fps (or less), sub 720p resolution, washed out colors, jaggies all over the place so essentially they are already a downgraded ports. The 30 fps really hurts the experience and I really don't think that Sega could have downgraded the game any further for the Wii without a major overhaul to the game.

Funny thing is that I made this exact thread a year and a half ago when I heard Sonic Colors is not coming to Ps360. Luckily then I discovered Dolphin...


Is the PC version that much better? I have it for PS3 and I didnt notice any problems. You're right that downgrading to WIi would not have been easy and it probably would have sucked and people most likely would have picked up the HD version like they do for most games anyway, but they still coulda taken the 3ds verison and put it on WIi just to calm the vocal minority down


It really is. I bought and beat the 360 version first and too didn't see any issues with the games visuals.

Then I tried the PC version and since I've traded the 360 version. It really looks far superior on the PC, mostly due to much crisper collors and twice the frame rate. Also Sonic Generations looks great in 3D and PC version here really shines. 1080p per eye vs 360p upscaled to 720p...not contest really.

They possibly could have ported the 3DS verson to the Wii like you mentioned, but it probably wouldn't look so hot on a big screen. 3DS hides a lot of detail loss with 3D and a smaller screen.

Unfortunately I think that for this game, Wii was just stuck between beeing not good enough and too good to port either version of the game.

interesting, if I ever get a better PC, ill have to try it out. Yeah Wii only owners are screwed, but whatcha gonna do??



mike_intellivision on 17 January 2012
oniyide said:
mike_intellivision said:
Sega makes some very strange decisions.

It probably left sales of 1M on the table by not making a Wii version -- which will probably be more than the HD versions sell combined.

(It had been a long time since I had seen a commercial bragging about a game getting 8s -- and Sega is doing that with Sonic Generations).

Mike from Morgantown


PS Rayman appears to be great -- although its slow sales (especially on Wii) show that most people don't recognize good 2D platforming.

actually both versions have had a bigger opening than Colors, so if it can keep the same legs they WILL do better than Colors

But the difference is that Colors peaked in Week 6 in NA and Week 7 in Europe.

Combined, Generations on two platforms has just passed Colors (on one).  And that is based upon extrapolation which increased PS3 and Xbox 360 sales from the totals and decreased Wii sales.

That being said, those sales are respectable. I do wonder though which represents the larger profit (potentially higher development costs and porting costs for the HD consoles v. the Wii).

 

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A203D on 17 January 2012

I played the demo and wasnt too impressed. i think they need to control Sonic's speed rather than 'Unleashing' it all the time. maybe the final game is much better.

but i saw someone say Rayman Origins was the best 2D platformer this gen. i havent played DKCR or NSMWii, but Rayman Origins is an awesome game. and there are some speed levels in that which i had a lot more fun with than the demo of Sonic Generations. and Rayman's done like 1 mil comined on in about 2 months, which isnt bad at all.



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oniyide on 17 January 2012
mike_intellivision said:
oniyide said:
mike_intellivision said:
Sega makes some very strange decisions.

It probably left sales of 1M on the table by not making a Wii version -- which will probably be more than the HD versions sell combined.

(It had been a long time since I had seen a commercial bragging about a game getting 8s -- and Sega is doing that with Sonic Generations).

Mike from Morgantown


PS Rayman appears to be great -- although its slow sales (especially on Wii) show that most people don't recognize good 2D platforming.

actually both versions have had a bigger opening than Colors, so if it can keep the same legs they WILL do better than Colors

But the difference is that Colors peaked in Week 6 in NA and Week 7 in Europe.

Combined, Generations on two platforms has just passed Colors (on one).  And that is based upon extrapolation which increased PS3 and Xbox 360 sales from the totals and decreased Wii sales.

That being said, those sales are respectable. I do wonder though which represents the larger profit (potentially higher development costs and porting costs for the HD consoles v. the Wii).

 

Mike from Morgantown

Thats true, but it took Sonic Colors a whole year to hit the million mark. PS360 combined did that in a fraction of the time. Now you might say its not fair to combine the two, but consdering that there are alot more Wiis, than either PS or 360s and that some Ninty fans swear that Sonic is best on Ninty platforms. I still see it as an accomplishment. What interests me the most is that both PS3 and 360 versions INDIVIDUALLY.  So either A) that whole crap about "SOnic on Ninty consoles, blah blah blah" is just that, crap.  B), Sonic Generations is really that much better than Colors or C) Sega gave Generations more attention