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FFXII is still a long ways off. Every dollar S-E puts into it from this point on is down the drain assuming it stays PS3 exclusive. PS3 + 360 could break even at least, but it doesn't help them in Japan where they'd be flushing their #1 franchise down the tubes.


FFXII is whatever S-E make it. If they want to keep the franchise viable in Japan, and especially if they want to make boat-loads of money, Wii is a no-brainer.

DQ on DS was unthinkable before it happened too.


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I don't understand why people keep saying FFXIII is not possible on the Wii. What in the game, that hasn't even been made yet, would make it in capable of working on Wii's hardware? This just doesn't make sense to me. It is just an RPG.

 Any who, I am really intrigued at what could be on the horizon.



stewacide said:
FFXII is still a long ways off. Every dollar S-E puts into it from this point on is down the drain assuming it stays PS3 exclusive. PS3 + 360 could break even at least, but it doesn't help them in Japan where they'd be flushing their #1 franchise down the tubes.

FFXII is whatever S-E make it. If they want to keep the franchise viable in Japan, and especially if they want to make boat-loads of money, Wii is a no-brainer.

DQ on DS was unthinkable before it happened too.

DQ on DS is a new and completely unique game.  If it was made for the PSP first I doubt it would have been on the DS.  Thank you, Wiigirl, for being realistic and admitting that FF13 will not be on the Wii.  The worry for me is that it ends up on the 360 even though it would still benefit Sony more overall (because of Japan).  FF13 will still make tons of money in Japan just like FF7 did being the first released on the console.  The PS3 is a little cheaper in Japan and that game alone will convince Japanese gamers to get a PS3.



superchunk said:

I don't understand why people keep saying FFXIII is not possible on the Wii. What in the game, that hasn't even been made yet, would make it in capable of working on Wii's hardware? This just doesn't make sense to me. It is just an RPG.

Any who, I am really intrigued at what could be on the horizon.


Have you seen the screenshots or videos?  Those graphics are not possible on the Wii.



windbane said:
superchunk said:

I don't understand why people keep saying FFXIII is not possible on the Wii. What in the game, that hasn't even been made yet, would make it in capable of working on Wii's hardware? This just doesn't make sense to me. It is just an RPG.

Any who, I am really intrigued at what could be on the horizon.


Have you seen the screenshots or videos?  Those graphics are not possible on the Wii.


And of course it's totally impossible to remake the graphics, regardless of how much money it would make.  It's getting to the point where if Square doesn't want FFXIII to be the poorest selling and earning installment since at least FFVII it'll have to be on the Wii. 

I'm not sure FFXIII will be on the Wii, though I am certain it isn't impossbile.  I think more likely Square will cut off development of the game early to begin FFXIV as soon as possible and focus on the spin offs.  I think they'll realize so few people will be able to play it on the PS3 anyways that putting out a shorter FF won't be detrimental overall.  They could also go Pokemon and say the PS3, DS, and Wii installments are three chapters of the same book, Gotta Collect Them All!!!



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When DQIX was announced for the DS, there we're no screens or trailers available of the game, for FFXIII there are since about a year or so, so the game is in full speed in development. I hate to admit it myself too as of course it would be a dream that FFXIII end up on the WII, but on the other hand.... be glad we might not get it. We've got our own wonderful and personal exclusives, hey we've got DQIX for Nintendo and maybe we even get to see more. Just wait and see what will happen next month, but like I've said before, I don't expect anything spectacular, things could turn out to be a real surprise then.... or not.



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windbane said:
superchunk said:

I don't understand why people keep saying FFXIII is not possible on the Wii. What in the game, that hasn't even been made yet, would make it in capable of working on Wii's hardware? This just doesn't make sense to me. It is just an RPG.

Any who, I am really intrigued at what could be on the horizon.


Have you seen the screenshots or videos?  Those graphics are not possible on the Wii.

So, that's it, only graphics. That's bs. Those graphics were not gameplay but pre-rendered that could easily be small videos on Wii. The only problem I would foresee is actual gameplay. That is what is pushing hardware, not videos. What about the gameplay is completely out for Wii.

I will have to search the video on FFIII to see if there are any gameplay shots I don't remember, however, I think it is entirely possible. Sure, not as pretty as PS3, but possible. Of course this is entirely up to the contract between Sony and SquareEnix.

EDIT: Ok, I saw some of what I think gameplay videos/pics are, yes Wii couldn't do that. So fine, unless SquareEnix completely downgrades the graphics, the main game could not be on Wii.



superchunk said:
windbane said:
superchunk said:

I don't understand why people keep saying FFXIII is not possible on the Wii. What in the game, that hasn't even been made yet, would make it in capable of working on Wii's hardware? This just doesn't make sense to me. It is just an RPG.

Any who, I am really intrigued at what could be on the horizon.


Have you seen the screenshots or videos? Those graphics are not possible on the Wii.

So, that's it, only graphics. That's bs. Those graphics were not gameplay but pre-rendered that could easily be small videos on Wii. The only problem I would foresee is actual gameplay. That is what is pushing hardware, not videos. What about the gameplay is completely out for Wii.

I will have to search the video on FFIII to see if there are any gameplay shots I don't remember, however, I think it is entirely possible. Sure, not as pretty as PS3, but possible. Of course this is entirely up to the contract between Sony and SquareEnix.

EDIT: Ok, I saw some of what I think gameplay videos/pics are, yes Wii couldn't do that. So fine, unless SquareEnix completely downgrades the graphics, the main game could not be on Wii.


Thank you for looking.

@albionus:  There is no evidence what-so-ever that any FF game will sell poorly, no matter what console it is released on.  You greatly underestimate it's power to sell consoles...everywhere, but especially in Japan.   It's just not going to sell poorly.  If there was one game announced that I knew would sell specifically PS3 consoles, it would be FF13.  I'm sure a large majority of current owners will own it, too.



WiiGirl76 said:
shams said:

Cmon guys... all the pieces are coming together...

- Kingdom Hearts developers working on a new title, not KH3

...

I'll go out on a limb, and say Im 95% it is coming...

"Mushroom Kingdom Hearts" (FF characters + Mario characters + Disney characters)

...and here comes the GIGATON... :)

PS - Can't wait for half these titles announced! The only thing that could make this sweeter, would be FFXIII coming to the Wii exclusively (which won't happen.. :>).

 

Mushroom Kingdom Hearts = April Fools joke April issue and said it will have 41 characters 4 and 1 is April the first, so April fool.

I think we can expect spin off games, nothing too dramatic special. And if there are major announcements it could be a real joy, but until then I stay somewhat pessimistic.

Ok, don't believe me ;) I still think its the perfect crossover, makes sense for the demographic, and fits the "press release" (perfect for both sets of fans). Apart from that, I know nothing about Chronotrigger - but everyone else seems excited by the possibility.

I don't buy into FFXIII coming to the Wii. Its designed for "next-gen", they would be smarter to make a new Wii game (6 games coming out in the FXIII Crystal Nova thingo series anyway). I can see a 360 port, but that would be after the initial PS3 release anyway. 

 



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vanguardian1 said:

It seems like they're suggesting a pokemon type link-up system between the wii and DS.

 

And I think they were reffering to Dragon Quest : Monster Joker or whatever the title is. ;)

Hmmm. Just re-read the article carefully, and it sounds like this as well. But the creatures in DQIX can't "battle" can they? So a Pokemon Battle Revolution analagous title for the Wii wouldn't really be possible?

Unless they plan on bringing DQIX to the Wii as well - in some form? Maybe its a secret "dual-skew" development? 

 



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