The fact that he cant even name one, says alot. Personally the only games I played that were worth a damn was Dance Central and Kinect Sports. IMHO, this whole thing is silly. None of these motion heavy games are going to be all that anyway. THe motion tech is not that advanced yet, Kinect is a souped up eyetoy, nothing wrong with that, but common sense will tell you that a camera based controller is going to be very limited in what it can do. THe best we can hope for right now, is better dance and exercise games.  Move has a couple of interesting games for it, but they are few and seemed relegated to PSN, Tumble, echochrome2. THe best games are the ones that could be played with a regular controller. RE5, Infamous2, KZ3, HR and thats ok I love using Move for KZ3, makes it much easier. ANd WII, well just look at the library.

Ok I realise my error... it's all a matter of taste. Of course to me Kinect's lineup is better (specific games I mean) but just because I like some games doesn't mean they're better than the competition. I still believe Dance Central and Kinect Sports (1 and 2) move more hardware than anything Move has.

Like I said in the post below this one, list wars are useless and most of the time all a matter of taste. You can tell me Move specific games are as good as Kinect's specific games but numbers says otherwise. Don't talk about Kinect's hardware and software since you clearly have no idea how this is working.

Bolded: This is why Move hasn't set fire to Playstation yet. Next gen may be different though.

LOL i didnt say anything about a list wars, I just called you out on the BS of not answering the guy's question.  So its all a matter of taste but numbers say otherwise?? Which one is it?? So becasue a million people bought something it has to be good?? Ok man, FYI I actually like those two games you mentioned, cause i actually played them

Unfortunately Move is NOT closing the gap - not in the way the Original Poster implies... . The 9 million move devices includes all devices.. If u have 3 or four move devices at home then you are one of the many who do.. A kinect owner has 1 kinect... This means if there are 9.5 million kinects out there that it's a true number for the installed userbase... With Move that's not true.. Some people have 3 or 4 move devices, since you need one wand for each friend.. While on kinect you don't need anything else.. If everyone had 2 move devices and 9 million move devices are out there that would mean only 4.5 million users have move on their PS3 versus 9.5 million users on Kinect - thats Half of kinect.. Since some ppl have more then 2 move devices the userbase would be even lower.. With kinect we know a kinect user only needs one device no matter how many ppl use it on one console.. On move if I  play with 2 friends we each need a device to play at the same time.. That's why move looks 'close'..  So yeah it's close on devices sold.. But far off in actual userbase.  With the designed 'need' of additional wands to play with Sony designed a system that didn't benefit developers , but benefit their wallets.  I don't think this design is working out well as Move was out 1st and yet kinects userbase continues to grow.. This sorta proves that even if your product is out first it doesn't mean you'll be in first place.  Xbox was out first, but it's outselling itself every year so far.. So that's a good record

LOL... ok let's say I was wrong to imply Kinect's lineup is better.

If you think its better, then you think its better. Thats up to the person, but if you never touched anything having to do with Move, its kind of a biased opinion and you're kinda just blowing hot air.

from your post you seem to be confusing unique users with actual units sold and i've made this point before and i'll make it again...

even if the situation existed that a move owner had to buy 4 wands to play the fact remains that this still represents 4 sales it doesn't matter if its one user or not, why would it?

you think sony cares how many people are buying these things once they are sold?

in fact i didn't even realise that you made the point here "So yeah it's close on devices sold.. But far off in actual userbase" exactly and the article is actually about "devices sold" not "userbase"

"With kinect we know a kinect user only needs one device no matter how many ppl use it on one console"

true but regardless kinect cannot go beyond 2 active users so i don't really see this as being such an achievement

No need to get emotional.

Thanks for the clues and the high level of disdain.

So $454 million, less than the kinect advertising push, for the market leader spread over two platforms. Yeah, the kinect spend still looks gigantic.

I assumed you were trying to show how the marketing costs of a single game could be very high, and as such a huge figure like $500 million needs to be taken into perspective as such. Or am I wrong?

Therefore, the Uncharted 3 example was a poor one. We don't know if £5 million is a high advertising spend for the UK or not. We do know some global figures though, such as Halo 3's $40 million advertising costs, and conveniently it's the in the same currency and involves no speculation.

Chill man I said this because people kept saying Kinect's games were all bad. I have a Kinect and so does almost every member of my family and the fun we have with the better games is saying much. If I compare to my friends that have Move all we could play was Sports Champion but beyond that I didn't know what Move games were. Now that someone showed Sony published games for Move, I can only wonder why people keep saying MS published games for Kinect were shovleware when they publish KS and DC...