There were the days when you could criticize Nintendo's games or actions more on their official forums than here.  I'm glad it's not like that around here anymore.

As for your other post - you are right about Motion gaming.  I think Nintendo admitted that it's not the only future for gaming with the Wii U.  Motion control is going to have a place in the gaming industry, but it won't take over completely.  It does add variety to the industry, which isn't a bad thing.

At first with the Wii, I was afraid that "casual gaming" was going to push hardcore gaming out of the way.  It turned out that all the generic FPS games did alot more damage to "hardcore" gaming than the Wii or motion control did.  I know the generally accepted definition of a hardcore gamer is someone who plays military FPS multiplayer all the time - but that's not my personal definition.  I always found that to be casual gaming - even if it appeals to teenage and 20s males (which is why I think it's labeled hardcore).  But it appeals to alot of males that were too cool back in the day to play video games.

Any thread like this would bring in fanboys.  A PS3 one would probably be pretty bad - since both the Xbox and Wii fans would go there.  Xbox and Wii fans tend not to bother each other as much as they harp on Sony.

Hate is such a strong word... but if I had to decide from the poll, it would be because of the games. I only play the Zeldas/1 or 2 RPGs games on the Wii. I just borrowed a friend's Wii to play Skyward a matter of fact.

Overall, Wii games don't appeal to me.

I think I explained my disdain for Nintendo quite well.  

1 - No third party support.  The only good games for gamers are Nintendo games (mario, Zelda, Kirby, Smash Brothers, MEtroid) with a few rarities that don't suck (No More Heroes, MadWorld, Resident Evil series). 

2 - You can get an Xbox 360 or PS3, and the sheer variety of games available on both systems is staggering, so you simply cannot go wrong with them.  with the Wii you're pretty much constrained to those titles.  

3 - Very few games utilized the motion controls, and t he ones that did were stupid gimmicks. 

4 - WiiWare was nothing short of absolutely useless.  maybe a dozen games came out on it that didn't suck. 

5 - the Virtual Console lost all support after a couple years.  I don't remember the last significant release on there was. 

6 - the Wii series...what a joke they were.  wii Play, Wii Sports, Wii Music, Wii fit, all garbage (though Wii fit had some practical applications) 

7 - Operation Rainfall.  Nuff said.  

8 - thanks to the wii, we now have Kinect and Move, which have proven to so far be pretty useless for anything more than the casual crowd.  (though I keep trying to use Move on PS3 titles to no avail.) 

Basically, what I'm trying to say here is that, while the good parts of the Wii truly are wonderful, there's just not that much there to recommend.  Basically, Nintendo took all that fat cash they made with the console and did...what with it?  nothing.  More carnival games and gimmicky motion control crap that most gamers wouldn't be caught dead using.  I love my Wii, I truly do.  some of my all time favorite games are on there (donkey Kong, Smash Brothers, zelda games), but the fact of the matter is that it's a huge disappointment to gamers.  Casuals love it, and they should.  the rest of us are left wanting.  

Take a look at this year's Wii release schedule: http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html?site=wii&cat=0&year=2011&numrev=0&sort=0&letter=&search=

That's a total 6 games...only three of which have 'good' or 'great' ratings.  (I kept the list to only 20 or more reviews to keep out all the stuff t hat nobody played).  and look at the games on display: Zelda, Kirby, and that Operation Rainfall game.  

Meanwhile, look at Xbox 360's release schedule for the year: http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html?site=xbox360&cat=0&year=2011&numrev=0&sort=0&letter=&search= 

6 games over the coveted 90% average...shooters, action games, horror, etc.  you name it!  Lots of variety, loads of quality. 

PS3's list is even better (though some games are not on here because apparently fewer publications review PS3 versions): http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html?site=ps3&cat=0&year=2011&numrev=0&sort=0&letter=&search=

See what I'm getting at?  Wii doesn't really have much of anything, though the games it does have are epic.  Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, Zelda twilight Princess and Skyward Sword, Smash Brothers, Xenoblade, MAriokart Wii, Kirby, Metroid....again, all mario titles.  

I hate the Nintendo Wii because I've been hit a million times by the blue shell in Mario Kart Wii. Why did they have to put that blasted item in the game.

In all reality, I love the Wii and it's mainly because of Mario Kart Wii and New Super Mario Bros. Wii.

1) Blame can be put on Nintendo but if 3rd parties actually put decent effort into their Wii games then they would see satifying results.  Take MH3 for example.  The first 2 didn't combine to sell over 1 million while MH3 will eventually sell 2+ million. Sure you can put some blame for the Wii being underpowered but more needs to be directed at the third party companies themseleves.  Shit, a lot of them closed shop this generation and I don't think it was Nintendo's fault.  It was their own damn fault.

2) The Wii has a decent amount of genres represented and possible some that are barely or not represented at all on the other consoles.  Sure, the other consoles have more number of games for certain genres but the Wii doesn't lack that many genres.

3) Wiimote/nunchuck combo showed that it is far superior than dual analog for FPS.  That is if you can get your lazy ass off dual analog.

4) I'll give you that about WiiWare.  I found a few good titles such as the Rebirth titles (Castlevania, Contra, etc) and World of Goo (although the PC version was better since it included a level editor but still a good WW title)

5) Pretty much right about the VC.  They pretty much gave up on it for now which doesn't make too much sense considering how easy it is to support the VC.  There are plenty of games on there and I believe I have bought at least 55+ and still have some that I am interested in buying.

6) I don't consider the Wii series as a joke.  Wii Sports and Sports Resort were fun and very fun while playing with other people.  Playing Wii Sports helped me get my current girl since I invited her over after she joked that I still played video games and that she hasn't in a very long time.

whats depressing, is that you cant stand critism for your favorite console. For the most part people have been tame and its not like anyone even said they hate the Wii. No one makes the why do you hate Xbox thread, because maybe not much people "hate".  No one is bashing anything, why not tell your fellow Ninty peeps to stop making these threads? Its not like its the HDs that are doing it

I don't hate the Wii... I hate Nintendo for basically catering only to the casual / expanded audience with it, and leaving the rest of us long-time Ninty fans to look for greener pastures to fulfill our gaming needs.

And what route is the Wii-U going ? Mind telling us? because we've heard nothing from the Wii-U.

I love wii for so many reason, and I hate wii for some reason. This is the reason why I hate Wii doesn't had much third party games, no HD support, and to many casual game.