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Jay520 said:
Mr Khan said:
miz1q2w3e said:
A year after competition, any later = bad

Even a year's lead proved decisive in their conflict with 360. Sony will have learned the lesson this time



The late launch was a rather miniscule contributing factor compared to the PS3's biggest weaknesses: No games, High price, lacking features, difficult architecture, etc. Those things were much more impactful to the PS3's success than launch period. It definitely didn't prove to be a "decisive" factor as you mentioned. The same should be said for the PS4, or any console for the matter.

BTW, OP, Are you going to fix the thread title?

The early lack of games was due to the advantage of developers having more time with the 360. The difficult architecture could have been surmounted the same way that the PS2's relatively difficult architecture was: more time with the system

If PS3 had come out in 2005, many of its problems would have been corrected



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Adobo said:
Imo, they don't have to rush in to the next gen yet. They still have great devs. No need for fancy hardware updates.


i agree with this, the vita with its ps3 connectivity will carry sony for a while, not to mention the software titles for both systems, i.e. god of war 4, uncharted abbyss, littlebigplanet vita, sly cooper 4, starhawk, etc.



What Sony needs to do to be competitive next-gen and potentially beat Microsoft.
-Launch their console at about $300($350 for premium)
-Don't sell it at a loss.
-Launch BEFORE Microsoft. This will almost guarantee them taking back North America. This probably won't happen though.
-Find your killer app. Uncharted is great but its not a system seller. Not having a killer app is the biggest reason why the PS3 was so slow to take off and still struggling in NA.
-Timed exclusives. Try and get AAA games released on your console FIRST. It worked wonders for the PS2 with games like Grant Theft Auto.
-Backwards compatibility is a must. That way you can continue selling new PS3 games even to PS4-only owners.



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Id say about a year



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Why do people still keep using the 10 year plan as a way to estimate the PS4's release?

Do people not know the PS1 and PS2 also had 10 year plans? Its not new to the PS3. So far the pattern is a new console every 6 years (not counting re-designs) so if anything it'll be 2012...but since PS3 was such a money loser early on I could see them stretching it to 2013 or at the VERY LATEST 2014 since its now profitable and they want to salvage some money out of the PS3.

To make it last to 2013 or 2014 I think they'll need another price re-design and price drop to $200 for the PS3 maybe in 2012 around the same time Wii U comes out.

I'm betting PS4 will be same year as Xbox 3 though. Wii U is guaranteed in 2012, so I could see Xbox and PS4 being 2013 together.



As for what they need to do to succeed:

- Obviously price is the biggest thing. If they want a guaranteed commercial success then $299 is the way to go, but I could see having 2 SKUs...The cheaper one at $299 and the pricier one at $349 or even $399 if the difference is drastic enough.

- Launch games. Get an Uncharted game and GT6 there at launch and people will have a reason to buy the PS4.

- Good advertising. Put out an epic Kevin Butler commercial or something, no stupid commercials like PS3 had early on.

- Sell it at a damn profit. If PS4 loses money like the PS3 did then I don't see there being a PS5.