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Forums - Sales Discussion - PAL Charts - Week 45

Nsanity on 16 November 2011
shanbcn said:
MW3 on PS3 in Germany easly sold 4 times more then 360 version looking at the chart, 360 version is even below Skyrim PC. UC3 is dropping pretty badly in all over EU, it needs to show better legs in coming weeks.

21. (13) [360] Forza Motorsport 4 (Diverse Distributoren/Microsoft)
24. (24) [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (Sony Computer Entertainment)

GT5 is a beast in others.


Of course GT5 being sold at half the price of Forza 4 and much more established franchise is going to sell more.



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D-Joe on 16 November 2011

4 times?even not happen on boyfriend 3



http://zh-tw.justin.tv/johndoe1899

shanbcn on 16 November 2011
D-Joe said:
4 times?even not happen on boyfriend 3


It happened with Fifa 12 and its possible here also looking at positions. Skyrim PC didnt sell anywhere near close to MW3 and 360 version is behind it.



dsage01 on 16 November 2011

This again prooves that VGC does a really horrible job of tracking game sales in EMEAA and it does all right in tracking game sales in the U.S. But Uncharted 3 is doing well in places like Italy, Germany, France and other places but dropping like a rock in U.K. and Norway due to the heavy MW3 effect and Skyrim effect. But overall UC3 is doing pretty well in EMEAA



enrageorange on 16 November 2011
shanbcn said:
enrageorange said:
shanbcn said:
postofficebuddy said:
D-Joe said:
kopstudent89 said:


how many?

actually i don't have 2010 data,but in 2011 Jun~March,it sold 72k in Korea

VGC doesn't track MEAA software (The site's biggest failing IMO).


We get enough official figures to know that, especially Nintendo provide charts every quarter. For Xbox360 UK is easily the biggest market, closer to 75% share instead of 40-50% which VGZ shows.

the UK makes up 1/3 of the 360 console base in EMEAA. It makes no sense that 1/3 of the market would make up 75% of the software sales... If the rest of europe buys significantly less software then the UK then the ps3 software numbers must be overtracked as well.


It makes sense because we get numbers from time to time. Just look at Germany, Fifa 12 PS3 500k+ already and 360 version 100k+.

you are basing this on one game in one country? Its really funny you ignored the battlefield sales of that chart you showed. Battlefield 3 on the ps3 only sold twice the 360 version and geez the PC version sold even more then the ps3 version. Whenever a big xbox 360 exclusive comes out. It always tops the pal chart of every single region and its limited edition version is usually in second. Whenever a huge multiplatform comes out the 360 version is always either behind the pc or ps3 version. 50% of the time it is ahead of the PC version and gasp sometimes even ahead of the ps3 version. Skyrim in sweden as an example from this week.



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shanbcn on 16 November 2011
enrageorange said:
shanbcn said:
enrageorange said:
shanbcn said:
postofficebuddy said:
D-Joe said:
kopstudent89 said:


how many?

actually i don't have 2010 data,but in 2011 Jun~March,it sold 72k in Korea

VGC doesn't track MEAA software (The site's biggest failing IMO).


We get enough official figures to know that, especially Nintendo provide charts every quarter. For Xbox360 UK is easily the biggest market, closer to 75% share instead of 40-50% which VGZ shows.

the UK makes up 1/3 of the 360 console base in EMEAA. It makes no sense that 1/3 of the market would make up 75% of the software sales... If the rest of europe buys significantly less software then the UK then the ps3 software numbers must be overtracked as well.


It makes sense because we get numbers from time to time. Just look at Germany, Fifa 12 PS3 500k+ already and 360 version 100k+.

you are basing this on one game in one country? Its really funny you ignored the battlefield sales of that chart you showed. Battlefield 3 on the ps3 only sold twice the 360 version and geez the PC version sold even more then the ps3 version. Whenever a big xbox 360 exclusive comes out. It always tops the pal chart of every single region and its limited edition version is usually in second. Whenever a huge multiplatform comes out the 360 version is always either behind the pc or ps3 version. 50% of the time it is ahead of the PC version and gasp sometimes even ahead of the ps3 version. Skyrim in sweden as an example from this week.

Last montn Fifa on PS3 sold 200k+ ( we dont get exact figures just awards) compared to 100k+ on 360. This month Fifa 12 is already over 500k on PS3 while still 100k+ on 360. So while BF3 may go on to sell 500k on PS3 alone while 360 will be again at 100k+.



enrageorange on 16 November 2011
shanbcn said:
enrageorange said:
shanbcn said:
enrageorange said:
shanbcn said:
postofficebuddy said:
D-Joe said:
kopstudent89 said:


how many?

actually i don't have 2010 data,but in 2011 Jun~March,it sold 72k in Korea

VGC doesn't track MEAA software (The site's biggest failing IMO).


We get enough official figures to know that, especially Nintendo provide charts every quarter. For Xbox360 UK is easily the biggest market, closer to 75% share instead of 40-50% which VGZ shows.

the UK makes up 1/3 of the 360 console base in EMEAA. It makes no sense that 1/3 of the market would make up 75% of the software sales... If the rest of europe buys significantly less software then the UK then the ps3 software numbers must be overtracked as well.


It makes sense because we get numbers from time to time. Just look at Germany, Fifa 12 PS3 500k+ already and 360 version 100k+.

you are basing this on one game in one country? Its really funny you ignored the battlefield sales of that chart you showed. Battlefield 3 on the ps3 only sold twice the 360 version and geez the PC version sold even more then the ps3 version. Whenever a big xbox 360 exclusive comes out. It always tops the pal chart of every single region and its limited edition version is usually in second. Whenever a huge multiplatform comes out the 360 version is always either behind the pc or ps3 version. 50% of the time it is ahead of the PC version and gasp sometimes even ahead of the ps3 version. Skyrim in sweden as an example from this week.

Last montn Fifa on PS3 sold 200k+ ( we dont get exact figures just awards) compared to 100k+ on 360. This month Fifa 12 is already over 500k on PS3 while still 100k+ on 360. So while BF3 may go on to sell 500k on PS3 alone while 360 will be again at 100k+.

Like I said you are using just one region. Anyway even just looking at only the 360 minumum sales. In germany battlefield 3 sold at the minimum 100k. It sold less then 350k in UK according to the pal charts. Thus without any other countries included thats already 75%.

And those 360 fifa Germany sales actually prove that uk is a lot less then 75% as well.  360 Fifa sold around 750k in UK according to pal charts. It sold 100k+ in Germany. 360 sold more in France then Germany so fifa must have sold at least 100k+ there as well. In Italy the 360 sold almost as well as in Germany so at least 80k there. Already that means uk is less then 75% and I still have 20 other countries I need to include. 



dsage01 on 17 November 2011

Gosh VGC really needs to improve on tracking their sales



shanbcn on 17 November 2011
enrageorange said:
shanbcn said:
enrageorange said:
shanbcn said:
enrageorange said:
shanbcn said:
postofficebuddy said:
D-Joe said:
kopstudent89 said:


how many?

actually i don't have 2010 data,but in 2011 Jun~March,it sold 72k in Korea

VGC doesn't track MEAA software (The site's biggest failing IMO).


We get enough official figures to know that, especially Nintendo provide charts every quarter. For Xbox360 UK is easily the biggest market, closer to 75% share instead of 40-50% which VGZ shows.

the UK makes up 1/3 of the 360 console base in EMEAA. It makes no sense that 1/3 of the market would make up 75% of the software sales... If the rest of europe buys significantly less software then the UK then the ps3 software numbers must be overtracked as well.


It makes sense because we get numbers from time to time. Just look at Germany, Fifa 12 PS3 500k+ already and 360 version 100k+.

you are basing this on one game in one country? Its really funny you ignored the battlefield sales of that chart you showed. Battlefield 3 on the ps3 only sold twice the 360 version and geez the PC version sold even more then the ps3 version. Whenever a big xbox 360 exclusive comes out. It always tops the pal chart of every single region and its limited edition version is usually in second. Whenever a huge multiplatform comes out the 360 version is always either behind the pc or ps3 version. 50% of the time it is ahead of the PC version and gasp sometimes even ahead of the ps3 version. Skyrim in sweden as an example from this week.

Last montn Fifa on PS3 sold 200k+ ( we dont get exact figures just awards) compared to 100k+ on 360. This month Fifa 12 is already over 500k on PS3 while still 100k+ on 360. So while BF3 may go on to sell 500k on PS3 alone while 360 will be again at 100k+.

Like I said you are using just one region. Anyway even just looking at only the 360 minumum sales. In germany battlefield 3 sold at the minimum 100k. It sold less then 350k in UK according to the pal charts. Thus without any other countries included thats already 75%.

And those 360 fifa Germany sales actually prove that uk is a lot less then 75% as well.  360 Fifa sold around 750k in UK according to pal charts. It sold 100k+ in Germany. 360 sold more in France then Germany so fifa must have sold at least 100k+ there as well. In Italy the 360 sold almost as well as in Germany so at least 80k there. Already that means uk is less then 75% and I still have 20 other countries I need to include. 

Lets talk about official figures instead of estimates? Another exemple from Spain, last year Blops sold 310k on PS3 compared to 66k on 360. And Germany is atleast 2 times bigger market then Italy.



dsage01 on 17 November 2011
shanbcn said:
enrageorange said:
shanbcn said:
enrageorange said:
shanbcn said:
enrageorange said:
shanbcn said:
postofficebuddy said:
D-Joe said:
kopstudent89 said:


how many?

actually i don't have 2010 data,but in 2011 Jun~March,it sold 72k in Korea

VGC doesn't track MEAA software (The site's biggest failing IMO).


We get enough official figures to know that, especially Nintendo provide charts every quarter. For Xbox360 UK is easily the biggest market, closer to 75% share instead of 40-50% which VGZ shows.

the UK makes up 1/3 of the 360 console base in EMEAA. It makes no sense that 1/3 of the market would make up 75% of the software sales... If the rest of europe buys significantly less software then the UK then the ps3 software numbers must be overtracked as well.


It makes sense because we get numbers from time to time. Just look at Germany, Fifa 12 PS3 500k+ already and 360 version 100k+.

you are basing this on one game in one country? Its really funny you ignored the battlefield sales of that chart you showed. Battlefield 3 on the ps3 only sold twice the 360 version and geez the PC version sold even more then the ps3 version. Whenever a big xbox 360 exclusive comes out. It always tops the pal chart of every single region and its limited edition version is usually in second. Whenever a huge multiplatform comes out the 360 version is always either behind the pc or ps3 version. 50% of the time it is ahead of the PC version and gasp sometimes even ahead of the ps3 version. Skyrim in sweden as an example from this week.

Last montn Fifa on PS3 sold 200k+ ( we dont get exact figures just awards) compared to 100k+ on 360. This month Fifa 12 is already over 500k on PS3 while still 100k+ on 360. So while BF3 may go on to sell 500k on PS3 alone while 360 will be again at 100k+.

Like I said you are using just one region. Anyway even just looking at only the 360 minumum sales. In germany battlefield 3 sold at the minimum 100k. It sold less then 350k in UK according to the pal charts. Thus without any other countries included thats already 75%.

And those 360 fifa Germany sales actually prove that uk is a lot less then 75% as well.  360 Fifa sold around 750k in UK according to pal charts. It sold 100k+ in Germany. 360 sold more in France then Germany so fifa must have sold at least 100k+ there as well. In Italy the 360 sold almost as well as in Germany so at least 80k there. Already that means uk is less then 75% and I still have 20 other countries I need to include. 

Lets talk about official figures instead of estimates? Another exemple from Spain, last year Blops sold 310k on PS3 compared to 66k on 360. And Germany is atleast 2 times bigger market then Italy.

Wow that much of a gap? I'm really starting to think the COD games after MW2 don't have such a big gap