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mjk45 said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
sethnintendo said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:


Argh! Feel free to correct me each time you encounter a mistake in my post.

I always hesitate about commas and when to use them. I think I'll work on that once I am done with my spelling.

Just start over using your commas like a mad man.  Even after almost every word!  When in doubt just throw a comma smack down.  Hey, wait a minute, my spelling is pretty poor, and I am so glad that I have spell check; now, I just need grammar check.

Thanks for the tip!

 Speak it in your mind  ,and try putting commas in where you would have paused for a breathe.

Yeah, I am trying it now, and it sounds like a good idea, thanks.



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RolStoppable said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
Christian973 said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
I am surprised by the replies. :/

My spelling is weak and I make mistakes so I am not bothered.

VGC and the sites I've been visiting have made me a better person at lots of stuff. So to answer your question, No.

Ugh! You forgot to put a comma after visiting! I can't stand improper grammar! :/

Argh! Feel free to correct me each time you encounter a mistake in my post.

I always hesitate about commas and when to use them. I think I'll work on that once I am done with my spelling.

Actually, that sentence of yours is correct. The subject is "VGC and the sites I've been visiting" which may sound strange, because it contains verbs, but alternately the subject could be "VGC and others".

However, a comma is missing in the previous sentence. There should be one after "mistakes".

Then again, I follow similar grammar rules as in German when it comes to commas, so it's possible that I am mistaken every now and then. But honestly, a lack of commas rarely matters. Only sometimes it leads to a different meaning than the intended one. I'll give you an example. Somebody says that all Nintendo fans are smart. I want to disagree, so I say: "No, Nintendo fans are stupid."

Leave the comma out and suddenly it becomes agreement: "No Nintendo fans are stupid."

What an example! lol.

After reading the informative posts given here, I will misuse commas less.



Jay520 said:
I do. When I first joined this site, I would mentally acknoledge all the grammatical mistakes made by the users of the site. I used to stop and examine a post whenever someone mispelled a word, or formed an incohesive sentence, or even when someone neglected to start their sentence with a capital letter. However, as I became used to the site, I realised that these errors were very abundant, due to posters being natural to another language, ignorance, or just plain laziness; and so I came to the conlusion that I would be wasting my energy trying to point out each and every error a person made.

So, I eventually stopped my routine of finding errors and correcting them in my head. But now, just today actually, I saw a post with a huge amount of errors and I had to mentally acknowledge them. One of the mistakes was the spelling of the word 'article' as 'artical'. I looked at the word for 10 minutes, I knew it was spelled incorrectly, I knew it was a very simple word, but I couldn't think of the correct spelling without the aid of a dictionary.

With this swarm of confusion caused by such a simple word, I began to question myself, "After so many years of ignoring all the errors people made, have I myself become stupider in the process? How many others words can I not spell? Was this the 1st simple error that I couldn't fix...or was it the 100th? Has the VGChartz community tainted my beautiful brain with their broken English? Am I becoming... one of them?". Sadly, I think that may be true.

Thanks, VGChartz. Thanks for dumbing me up.

You (originally) had the following spelling mistakes: "acknoledge, conclusion". Who knows which other ones you have edited out.

Not to mention that,

"... formed an incohesive sentence..."

Should be incoherent.

"due to posters being natural to another language"

'Natural' to another language is not correct.

"due to posters being natural to another language, ignorance, or just plain laziness"

Another mistake. Should be ignorant and lazy.

 If you didn't remember it should be be 'article' then that is also pretty poor from your side. Also, seems like you're trying pretty hard to write well-constructed sentances in that post, but you end up only managing to overcook most of them.

So my conclusion is that your "beautiful brain" is perhaps not as wondrous as you think. You asked for it.

 

OT: Most forum based internet surfing rewires the brain in a non-desirable way. More important than spelling and grammar mistakes (which really isn't a big deal at all), is that most people don't have the ability to build a logic structure in the posts they make at all - worst is when a whole thread starts off without a some proper reasoning (like the "One problem with Uncharted 3" thread recently).

In any case, what do you expect? Most people are pretty dumb/uneducated. Not to mention that this is an anonymous videogame forum with a lot of teenagers.

I was pretty amazed by the "What's your IQ" thread recently. The scores posted by the users were just way too high. Those internet tests are worthless.



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Come on, man.

This is a video game site and not an English class.



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Dr.Grass said:
Jay520 said:
I do. When I first joined this site, I would mentally acknoledge all the grammatical mistakes made by the users of the site. I used to stop and examine a post whenever someone mispelled a word, or formed an incohesive sentence, or even when someone neglected to start their sentence with a capital letter. However, as I became used to the site, I realised that these errors were very abundant, due to posters being natural to another language, ignorance, or just plain laziness; and so I came to the conlusion that I would be wasting my energy trying to point out each and every error a person made.

So, I eventually stopped my routine of finding errors and correcting them in my head. But now, just today actually, I saw a post with a huge amount of errors and I had to mentally acknowledge them. One of the mistakes was the spelling of the word 'article' as 'artical'. I looked at the word for 10 minutes, I knew it was spelled incorrectly, I knew it was a very simple word, but I couldn't think of the correct spelling without the aid of a dictionary.

With this swarm of confusion caused by such a simple word, I began to question myself, "After so many years of ignoring all the errors people made, have I myself become stupider in the process? How many others words can I not spell? Was this the 1st simple error that I couldn't fix...or was it the 100th? Has the VGChartz community tainted my beautiful brain with their broken English? Am I becoming... one of them?". Sadly, I think that may be true.

Thanks, VGChartz. Thanks for dumbing me up.

You (originally) had the following spelling mistakes: "acknoledge, conclusion". Who knows which other ones you have edited out.

Not to mention that,

"... formed an incohesive sentence..."

Should be incoherent.

"due to posters being natural to another language"

'Natural' to another language is not correct.

"due to posters being natural to another language, ignorance, or just plain laziness"

Another mistake. Should be ignorant and lazy.

 If you didn't remember it should be be 'article' then that is also pretty poor from your side. Also, seems like you're trying pretty hard to write well-constructed sentances in that post, but you end up only managing to overcook most of them.

So my conclusion is that your "beautiful brain" is perhaps not as wondrous as you think. You asked for it.

 

OT: Most forum based internet surfing rewires the brain in a non-desirable way. More important than spelling and grammar mistakes (which really isn't a big deal at all), is that most people don't have the ability to build a logic structure in the posts they make at all - worst is when a whole thread starts off without a some proper reasoning (like the "One problem with Uncharted 3" thread recently).

In any case, what do you expect? Most people are pretty dumb/uneducated. Not to mention that this is an anonymous videogame forum with a lot of teenagers.

I was pretty amazed by the "What's your IQ" thread recently. The scores posted by the users were just way too high. Those internet tests are worthless.

If you create a list of something you quote, each section of text should be quoted, you can't form the list within quote marks. You also corrected Jay520's mistake within the quote and missed his misspelling of misspelled.* Therefore this: "following spelling mistakes: "acknoledge, conclusion"." Should have been this: "following spelling mistakes: "acknoledge"; "conlusion" and "mispelled"."

I don't see too much problem with the sentence: "due to posters being natural to another language, ignorance, or just plain laziness". I agree that using "natural to another language" is perhaps not specific enough as it is possible to be natural to multiple languages, but it gets the point across. There is also nothing wrong with continuing the sentence with "ignorance" and "plain laziness". Both the OP and your versions work, depending on where you interpret the start of the list from before or after "being".

Here would be your example:
1. Posters being natural to another language.
2. Posters being ignorant.
3. Posters being lazy.

Here is Jay520's:
1. Posters being natural to another language.
2. Posters ignorance.
3. Posters plain laziness.

Finally you also misspelled sentences, but as with Jay520, simple spelling errors like that are often just typing errors

I am sure there will be many faults to point out in what I have wriiten here too, hopefully most of them will be due to weird and now archaic traits of English grammar, likely involving rules about commas and semi-colons. I generally don't stress over other posters spelling or grammar mistakes too much unless I have to read through a sentence again just to understand it.

* Now that was just a lovely sentence.



TWRoO said:
Dr.Grass said:
Jay520 said:
I do. When I first joined this site, I would mentally acknoledge all the grammatical mistakes made by the users of the site. I used to stop and examine a post whenever someone mispelled a word, or formed an incohesive sentence, or even when someone neglected to start their sentence with a capital letter. However, as I became used to the site, I realised that these errors were very abundant, due to posters being natural to another language, ignorance, or just plain laziness; and so I came to the conlusion that I would be wasting my energy trying to point out each and every error a person made.

So, I eventually stopped my routine of finding errors and correcting them in my head. But now, just today actually, I saw a post with a huge amount of errors and I had to mentally acknowledge them. One of the mistakes was the spelling of the word 'article' as 'artical'. I looked at the word for 10 minutes, I knew it was spelled incorrectly, I knew it was a very simple word, but I couldn't think of the correct spelling without the aid of a dictionary.

With this swarm of confusion caused by such a simple word, I began to question myself, "After so many years of ignoring all the errors people made, have I myself become stupider in the process? How many others words can I not spell? Was this the 1st simple error that I couldn't fix...or was it the 100th? Has the VGChartz community tainted my beautiful brain with their broken English? Am I becoming... one of them?". Sadly, I think that may be true.

Thanks, VGChartz. Thanks for dumbing me up.

You (originally) had the following spelling mistakes: "acknoledge, conclusion". Who knows which other ones you have edited out.

Not to mention that,

"... formed an incohesive sentence..."

Should be incoherent.

"due to posters being natural to another language"

'Natural' to another language is not correct.

"due to posters being natural to another language, ignorance, or just plain laziness"

Another mistake. Should be ignorant and lazy.

 If you didn't remember it should be be 'article' then that is also pretty poor from your side. Also, seems like you're trying pretty hard to write well-constructed sentances in that post, but you end up only managing to overcook most of them.

So my conclusion is that your "beautiful brain" is perhaps not as wondrous as you think. You asked for it.

 

OT: Most forum based internet surfing rewires the brain in a non-desirable way. More important than spelling and grammar mistakes (which really isn't a big deal at all), is that most people don't have the ability to build a logic structure in the posts they make at all - worst is when a whole thread starts off without a some proper reasoning (like the "One problem with Uncharted 3" thread recently).

In any case, what do you expect? Most people are pretty dumb/uneducated. Not to mention that this is an anonymous videogame forum with a lot of teenagers.

I was pretty amazed by the "What's your IQ" thread recently. The scores posted by the users were just way too high. Those internet tests are worthless.

If you create a list of something you quote, each section of text should be quoted, you can't form the list within quote marks. You also corrected Jay520's mistake within the quote and missed his misspelling of misspelled.* Therefore this: "following spelling mistakes: "acknoledge, conclusion"." Should have been this: "following spelling mistakes: "acknoledge"; "conlusion" and "mispelled"."

I don't see too much problem with the sentence: "due to posters being natural to another language, ignorance, or just plain laziness". I agree that using "natural to another language" is perhaps not specific enough as it is possible to be natural to multiple languages, but it gets the point across. There is also nothing wrong with continuing the sentence with "ignorance" and "plain laziness". Both the OP and your versions work, depending on where you interpret the start of the list from before or after "being".

Here would be your example:
1. Posters being natural to another language.
2. Posters being ignorant.
3. Posters being lazy.

Here is Jay520's:
1. Posters being natural to another language.
2. Posters ignorance.
3. Posters plain laziness.

Finally you also misspelled sentences, but as with Jay520, simple spelling errors like that are often just typing errors

I am sure there will be many faults to point out in what I have wriiten here too, hopefully most of them will be due to weird and now archaic traits of English grammar, likely involving rules about commas and semi-colons. I generally don't stress over other posters spelling or grammar mistakes too much unless I have to read through a sentence again just to understand it.

* Now that was just a lovely sentence.


''  "following spelling mistakes: "acknoledge"; "conlusion" and "mispelled".  ''

That shouldn't be a semi-colon. Don't try and be fancy.

''you can't form the list within quote marks''

You mean 'quote quoting marks' ? That sentance sure as hell doesn't make sense.

''Here is Jay520's:

1. Posters being natural to another language.
2. Posters ignorance.
3. Posters plain laziness.''

You mean 'Poster's' right?

____

Anyways, good show. I don't really give a shit. I'm not English first language, but I think I'm ok at it. Don't care about spelling errors and the like. What does piss me off is poor logic.

I just made the post because I didn't like the idea behind the thread. You probably quoted me because you didn't like the idea behind my post  



Dr.Grass said:


''  "following spelling mistakes: "acknoledge"; "conlusion" and "mispelled".  ''

That shouldn't be a semi-colon. Don't try and be fancy.

''you can't form the list within quote marks''

You mean 'quote quoting marks' ? That sentance sure as hell doesn't make sense.

''Here is Jay520's:

1. Posters being natural to another language.
2. Posters ignorance.
3. Posters plain laziness.''

You mean 'Poster's' right?

____

Anyways, good show. I don't really give a shit. I'm not English first language, but I think I'm ok at it. Don't care about spelling errors and the like. What does piss me off is poor logic.

I just made the post because I didn't like the idea behind the thread. You probably quoted me because you didn't like the idea behind my post  

You are correct about the semi-colon, my apologies.

No I did not mean "quote quoting marks". You were originally quoting mistakes made by Jay520, you made a list of two mistakes which in his text were separate, then you put quote marks around the pair, thus you formed the list of his mistakes within quote marks.

And no, it should in fact be "Posters'..." because it is the plural possesive, so we were both wrong. (My excuse is that the mistake was originally made by Jay520 himself )

It wasn't that I didn't like the idea of your post, I could tell (though it can be difficult to over teh interwebz) that your intention was more satirical than simply to correct Jay520's mistakes... I just wanted to continue what could become a neverending tunnel of quotes if we let it.

Given that English is not your first language, you are a good example of how poor the education system in the UK is for language. Many British people have trouble with English grammar, and on top of that would probably stuggle to count to ten in French. (I know a little French, but wouldn't be able to get by in France without a phrase book, and my German is limited to counting to 10, and being able to say "I love you")



TWRoO said:
Dr.Grass said:


''  "following spelling mistakes: "acknoledge"; "conlusion" and "mispelled".  ''

That shouldn't be a semi-colon. Don't try and be fancy.

''you can't form the list within quote marks''

You mean 'quote quoting marks' ? That sentance sure as hell doesn't make sense.

''Here is Jay520's:

1. Posters being natural to another language.
2. Posters ignorance.
3. Posters plain laziness.''

You mean 'Poster's' right?

____

Anyways, good show. I don't really give a shit. I'm not English first language, but I think I'm ok at it. Don't care about spelling errors and the like. What does piss me off is poor logic.

I just made the post because I didn't like the idea behind the thread. You probably quoted me because you didn't like the idea behind my post  

You are correct about the semi-colon, my apologies.

No I did not mean "quote quoting marks". You were originally quoting mistakes made by Jay520, you made a list of two mistakes which in his text were separate, then you put quote marks around the pair, thus you formed the list of his mistakes within quote marks.

And no, it should in fact be "Posters'..." because it is the plural possesive, so we were both wrong. (My excuse is that the mistake was originally made by Jay520 himself )

It wasn't that I didn't like the idea of your post, I could tell (though it can be difficult to over teh interwebz) that your intention was more satirical than simply to correct Jay520's mistakes... I just wanted to continue what could become a neverending tunnel of quotes if we let it.

Given that English is not your first language, you are a good example of how poor the education system in the UK is for language. Many British people have trouble with English grammar, and on top of that would probably stuggle to count to ten in French. (I know a little French, but wouldn't be able to get by in France without a phrase book, and my German is limited to counting to 10, and being able to say "I love you")


This exchange was very amusing - thanks.

Just shows that you can argue with someone on VGChartz and still do it in good spirits