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Galaki on 25 October 2011

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Sony Ericsson Shows How Not To Connect With Fans: Forces Shutdown Of Xperia Fan Blog

from the bad-moves dept

Via Reddit we learn of yet another bad move by a shortsighted company. This time it's Sony Ericsson, who sent a legal nastygram to the Xperia blog at xperiablog.net -- a blog that talks up and promotes a bunch of things happening with the Xperia device that Sony Ericsson is pushing. Since it sounds like the blog itself, and the post explaining this, is likely to go away pretty soon, we're reposting it here:

It is with great sadness that we have to bring you the news that this will be the last post on this website. Sony Ericsson has filed a formal complaint about the use of the trademarked 'Xperia' name in our domain name and have requested that the domain names, including that of XperiaX10.net, be transferred to them.

Sony Ericsson is alleging that we have used the domain names in "bad faith". We are stunned and disappointed that Sony Ericsson, a company that we have spent much of our free personal time in promoting, especially the Xperia brand, has decided to take this formal action against us. After all we are just like you, passionate Sony Ericsson users, who have strived to bring the community breaking news and an independent viewpoint.

We do not have the resources to fight Sony Ericsson on this and therefore this is the last you will hear from us. Sony Ericsson has made great strides in its Xperia portfolio, especially in listening to the community. This makes it all the more confusing as to why Sony Ericsson would want to shut us down. We genuinely believe that 2012 could be a bumper year for the company, we just wish we could have been there along for the ride.
It's too bad they decided to cave. I would imagine they might be able to find some pro bono legal help on this, because the claim that the domain was registered in bad faith seems pretty freaking ridiculous. Plenty of "fan sites" have been allowed to continue, as long as there's no likelihood of confusion. It really is too bad that Sony Ericsson not only chose to go this route, but also went all the way to a formal dispute resolution (they don't say what, but I'm guessing a UDRP claim). It's amazing how many companies do really dumb things, just because some lawyers know they can.


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PullusPardus on 25 October 2011

Ericsson are a bunch of douches, i'm not talking about only this, but the fact when i worked on a tech sponsor, Ericsson was the biggest ass, they refuse to ship their products with Sony products as if they're the "superior" company which lead to a lot of slowness in our production and sales, there is a lot of deadlines to consider, which lead to lots of unneeded headaches, and Sony, couldn't do a thing about it, since they don't have the upper hand about this joint company. or so they say, Sony should really stop their joint company with Ericsson, for their own sake.

Edit : i mean look at this BS

i have no idea why Sony is still clinging to that company.



AbbathTheGrim on 25 October 2011

If they weren't doing anything to harm the Xperia brand, Sony fucked it up.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

theprof00 on 25 October 2011
kowenicki said:
PullusPardus said:

Ericsson are a bunch of douches, i'm not talking about only this, but the fact when i worked on a tech sponsor, Ericsson was the biggest ass, they refuse to ship their products with Sony products as if they're the "superior" company which lead to a lot of slowness in our production and sales, there is a lot of deadlines to consider, which lead to lots of unneeded headaches, and Sony, couldn't do a thing about it, since they don't have the upper hand about this joint company. or so they say, Sony should really stop their joint company with Ericsson, for their own sake.

Edit : i mean look at this BS

i have no idea why Sony is still clinging to that company.

You seem to be saying that any issues with Sony Ericsson are nothing to do with Sony...   It is a JOINT venture - 50/50 - so they have just as much say as Ericsson

...and that chart looks ok when compared to Sony Corp. Sony as a whole haven't made a full year profit for the last 3 years.

Isn't sony ericsson their costliest division?



PullusPardus on 25 October 2011
kowenicki said:
PullusPardus said:

Ericsson are a bunch of douches, i'm not talking about only this, but the fact when i worked on a tech sponsor, Ericsson was the biggest ass, they refuse to ship their products with Sony products as if they're the "superior" company which lead to a lot of slowness in our production and sales, there is a lot of deadlines to consider, which lead to lots of unneeded headaches, and Sony, couldn't do a thing about it, since they don't have the upper hand about this joint company. or so they say, Sony should really stop their joint company with Ericsson, for their own sake.

Edit : i mean look at this BS

i have no idea why Sony is still clinging to that company.

You seem to be saying that any issues with Sony Ericsson are nothing to do with Sony...   It is a JOINT venture - 50/50 - so they have just as much say as Ericsson

...and that chart looks ok when compared to Sony Corp. Sony as a whole haven't made a full year profit for the last 3 years.

Its from my own personal experience.
and no , they don't handle shipments , just hardware manufacturing 



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Munkeh111 on 25 October 2011
PullusPardus said:

Ericsson are a bunch of douches, i'm not talking about only this, but the fact when i worked on a tech sponsor, Ericsson was the biggest ass, they refuse to ship their products with Sony products as if they're the "superior" company which lead to a lot of slowness in our production and sales, there is a lot of deadlines to consider, which lead to lots of unneeded headaches, and Sony, couldn't do a thing about it, since they don't have the upper hand about this joint company. or so they say, Sony should really stop their joint company with Ericsson, for their own sake.

Edit : i mean look at this BS

i have no idea why Sony is still clinging to that company.

Funny how you choose a chart that is 2 years out of date, as the company have turned that around

This is a misleading article, as it is Sony Ericsson, not Sony, who have done this, but having said that, I was a subscriber to this blog, so a little sad to see it go. But I do agree that they would better if Sony bought out the JV, especially as then people would stop criticising Sony for things that SE are doing



PullusPardus on 25 October 2011
Munkeh111 said:
PullusPardus said:

Ericsson are a bunch of douches, i'm not talking about only this, but the fact when i worked on a tech sponsor, Ericsson was the biggest ass, they refuse to ship their products with Sony products as if they're the "superior" company which lead to a lot of slowness in our production and sales, there is a lot of deadlines to consider, which lead to lots of unneeded headaches, and Sony, couldn't do a thing about it, since they don't have the upper hand about this joint company. or so they say, Sony should really stop their joint company with Ericsson, for their own sake.

Edit : i mean look at this BS

i have no idea why Sony is still clinging to that company.

Funny how you choose a chart that is 2 years out of date, as the company have turned that around

 

i used the chart from Wiki, i don't follow their shipments anymore (quite that job i'm talking about for quite awhile) 
but i doubt what you said is true, that they have turned it around, you have source?



Munkeh111 on 25 October 2011
PullusPardus said:
Munkeh111 said:
PullusPardus said:

Ericsson are a bunch of douches, i'm not talking about only this, but the fact when i worked on a tech sponsor, Ericsson was the biggest ass, they refuse to ship their products with Sony products as if they're the "superior" company which lead to a lot of slowness in our production and sales, there is a lot of deadlines to consider, which lead to lots of unneeded headaches, and Sony, couldn't do a thing about it, since they don't have the upper hand about this joint company. or so they say, Sony should really stop their joint company with Ericsson, for their own sake.

Edit : i mean look at this BS

i have no idea why Sony is still clinging to that company.

Funny how you choose a chart that is 2 years out of date, as the company have turned that around

 

i used the chart from Wiki, i don't follow their shipments anymore (quite that job i'm talking about for quite awhile) 
but i doubt what you said is true, that they have turned it around, you have source?

I read Sony's financial statements, where they say what SE is doing. Their shipments have dropped, but their profitability is improving due to the fact that they basically only do Android phones. They are still financially a bit iffy, but not as bad as that chart was

http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/companyandpress/pressreleases/pressrelease/pressreleaseoverview/q3financialpressrelease2011-20111014?cc=gb&lc=en



h2o1977 on 25 October 2011

just very sad for sony......



S____M____C____C on 25 October 2011
kowenicki said:
PullusPardus said:

Ericsson are a bunch of douches, i'm not talking about only this, but the fact when i worked on a tech sponsor, Ericsson was the biggest ass, they refuse to ship their products with Sony products as if they're the "superior" company which lead to a lot of slowness in our production and sales, there is a lot of deadlines to consider, which lead to lots of unneeded headaches, and Sony, couldn't do a thing about it, since they don't have the upper hand about this joint company. or so they say, Sony should really stop their joint company with Ericsson, for their own sake.

Edit : i mean look at this BS

i have no idea why Sony is still clinging to that company.

You seem to be saying that any issues with Sony Ericsson are nothing to do with Sony...   It is a JOINT venture - 50/50 - so they have just as much say as Ericsson

...and that chart looks ok when compared to Sony Corp. Sony as a whole haven't made a full year profit for the last 3 years.

They pretty much made an operating profit last year. The huge loss was the writing off of deferred tax assets. So, it seems that they're profitable at the minute at least.