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Jay520 on 20 October 2011

Name:
- Playstation 4
Release:
- late 2014
Price:
- $399 (cheapest)
Power:
- One-year more advanced than X720
- High amount of RAM
- Easy to develop for
- A lot of memory
Games:
- Gran Turismo game within first year of launch.
- Naughty Dog game within first year of launch.
- Santa Monica game within first year of launch.
- Other major Devs get their franchises started in first few years.
- Equal or superior third party games.
- Large portion of games to be released released digitally.



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PlaystaionGamer on 20 October 2011

Jay520 said:
Name:
- Playstation 4
Release:
- late 2014
Price:
- $399 (cheapest)
Power:
- One-year more advanced than X720
- High amount of RAM
- Easy to develop for
- A lot of memory
Games:
- Gran Turismo game within first year of launch.
- Naughty Dog game within first year of launch.
- Santa Monica game within first year of launch.
- Other major Devs get their franchises started in first few years.
- Equal or superior third party games.
- Large portion of games to be released released digitally.


i agree with all of this, 2014 seems resonable and realistic for the release. i would even go as far as saying maybe only Japan in 2014. Early 2015 for NA/Europe 



phinch1 on 20 October 2011

Announced in 2013 E3 or TGS

launch price in Us will be $349
launch price in UK will be £299-£329

Now blue ray is quite cheap They can focus on parts such as RAM
It will be more advanced than the next xbox to put an end to comparison videos, where we currently split differences over "minor differences"

backwards compatible with ps3-ps2-ps1 games



sergiodaly on 20 October 2011
zarx said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

PS4
2013
Improved CELL (2 cells?) or i7, both would be at 3-3.4ghz for CPU and nvidia GPU, my guess would be a modified GTX 560 or 570. 4gb of ram. Faster Blu-ray reader + bigger blu-ray discs. This would be significantly more powerful than the WiiU and I predict it to be on par with nextbox.
$450/£350 for premium model.
Games = Plenty of first party and third party titles at launch or close to launch. (learning from vita and ps3)
Revised XMB, improved services and PSN, Dualshock 4 and something similar to kinect or improved Move, or both.


They are not going to go x86 that is for sure, it will be a new Cell with 4PPU (with updated instruction set etc) 32SPU @ 3.2 Ghz+ or a new custom 8 core Power 7 chip @ 4-5Ghz.

They will not use such an old GPU architecture as Femi, they will use a custom Kepler (up to 4* the performance of Fermi with the same die size and power usage) bassed chip. They may (according to rumours) consider going for an AMD Blackcomb bassed GPU as recently they have been putting out GPUs that give better performance per watt which is very important for consoles.

RAM will likely be 4GB system RAM 2GB VRAM

i hope they go for AMD GPU since i was never a big fan of nvidia...

about the memory... i think it will not have so many main memory and could have more video memory... in consoles main memory is not as important (will be slower) as video memory and is less needed (in quantity).

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Dr.Grass on 20 October 2011
PlaystaionGamer said:
if anyone thinks its coming before 2014 there off there heads!

il say E3 2013 we will see it, released 2014 mid to end of year.
Again we will have a graphics war between PS & Xbox but the Playstation 4 will have the better graphics (same as its basically played out this gen)

it will launch with 2 controllers.. 1 Duelshock 4 & some Move sort thing

Twice as powerful as PS3.

Launch Price of around £350/$450 im guessing

Uncharted 4/5 launch title


Want to back up your statement with a bet?

Seems I'm disagreeing with almost everything you post these days.



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zarx on 20 October 2011
sergiodaly said:
zarx said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

PS4
2013
Improved CELL (2 cells?) or i7, both would be at 3-3.4ghz for CPU and nvidia GPU, my guess would be a modified GTX 560 or 570. 4gb of ram. Faster Blu-ray reader + bigger blu-ray discs. This would be significantly more powerful than the WiiU and I predict it to be on par with nextbox.
$450/£350 for premium model.
Games = Plenty of first party and third party titles at launch or close to launch. (learning from vita and ps3)
Revised XMB, improved services and PSN, Dualshock 4 and something similar to kinect or improved Move, or both.


They are not going to go x86 that is for sure, it will be a new Cell with 4PPU (with updated instruction set etc) 32SPU @ 3.2 Ghz+ or a new custom 8 core Power 7 chip @ 4-5Ghz.

They will not use such an old GPU architecture as Femi, they will use a custom Kepler (up to 4* the performance of Fermi with the same die size and power usage) bassed chip. They may (according to rumours) consider going for an AMD Blackcomb bassed GPU as recently they have been putting out GPUs that give better performance per watt which is very important for consoles.

RAM will likely be 4GB system RAM 2GB VRAM

i hope they go for AMD GPU since i was never a big fan of nvidia...

about the memory... i think it will not have so many main memory and could have more video memory... in consoles main memory is not as important (will be slower) as video memory and is less needed (in quantity).


There really isn't any reason to go past 2GB video memory @1080p so unless Sony try to push quad HD games 2GB is the amount of video memory they will have IMO, hell on PC you can run 3 1080p displays off a 2GB card. With the system RAM my reasoning is that console OSs are getting ever more feature rich as time passes, and they won't want a repeat of the crossgame voice chat fiasco they had this generation so they will add more main RAM as a buffer while also giving devs the option of using it as a cache for additional graphics assets to avoid popin issues and loading screens, more RAM is never a bad thing. I also think that the Vita having 128MB VRAM and 512MB main RAM is very telling as to where Sony's hardware thinking is at. 

I am of course assuming they will still have a split memory architecture, if they don't care about backwords compatability they could go with the Power 7 chip and unified 6-8GB RAM, developers seem to really like the flexability that the 360s memory architecture.



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zarx on 20 October 2011
PlaystaionGamer said:
if anyone thinks its coming before 2014 there off there heads!

il say E3 2013 we will see it, released 2014 mid to end of year.
Again we will have a graphics war between PS & Xbox but the Playstation 4 will have the better graphics (same as its basically played out this gen)

it will launch with 2 controllers.. 1 Duelshock 4 & some Move sort thing

Twice as powerful as PS3.

Launch Price of around £350/$450 im guessing

Uncharted 4/5 launch title

So you think that Sony wants to compete directly with the Wii U then? Also that price seems kinda high for such a small leap in power especially by 2014



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PlaystaionGamer on 20 October 2011
Dr.Grass said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
if anyone thinks its coming before 2014 there off there heads!

il say E3 2013 we will see it, released 2014 mid to end of year.
Again we will have a graphics war between PS & Xbox but the Playstation 4 will have the better graphics (same as its basically played out this gen)

it will launch with 2 controllers.. 1 Duelshock 4 & some Move sort thing

Twice as powerful as PS3.

Launch Price of around £350/$450 im guessing

Uncharted 4/5 launch title


Want to back up your statement with a bet?

Seems I'm disagreeing with almost everything you post these days.


we are enemies it would seem.

im so confident that the PS4 will NOT launch before January 1st 2014. Sig control? although if your right we will find out next year and if im right then we will have to wait 2 years before an announcement to find out aha

basically if the PS4 is not announced at the 2012 E3 then we know its a 2014 launch. 



PlaystaionGamer on 20 October 2011
zarx said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
if anyone thinks its coming before 2014 there off there heads!

il say E3 2013 we will see it, released 2014 mid to end of year.
Again we will have a graphics war between PS & Xbox but the Playstation 4 will have the better graphics (same as its basically played out this gen)

it will launch with 2 controllers.. 1 Duelshock 4 & some Move sort thing

Twice as powerful as PS3.

Launch Price of around £350/$450 im guessing

Uncharted 4/5 launch title

So you think that Sony wants to compete directly with the Wii U then? Also that price seems kinda high for such a small leap in power especially by 2014


the WiiU is not even close to twice as powerful as the PS3. so no.. once again with will be Playstation/Bbox as the power systems while the WiiU will be last gen tech. same as what happened with Wii :)



Andrespetmonkey on 20 October 2011
zarx said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

PS4
2013
Improved CELL (2 cells?) or i7, both would be at 3-3.4ghz for CPU and nvidia GPU, my guess would be a modified GTX 560 or 570. 4gb of ram. Faster Blu-ray reader + bigger blu-ray discs. This would be significantly more powerful than the WiiU and I predict it to be on par with nextbox.
$450/£350 for premium model.
Games = Plenty of first party and third party titles at launch or close to launch. (learning from vita and ps3)
Revised XMB, improved services and PSN, Dualshock 4 and something similar to kinect or improved Move, or both.


They are not going to go x86 that is for sure, it will be a new Cell with 4PPU (with updated instruction set etc) 32SPU @ 3.2 Ghz+ or a new custom 8 core Power 7 chip @ 4-5Ghz.

They will not use such an old GPU architecture as Femi, they will use a custom Kepler (up to 4* the performance of Fermi with the same die size and power usage) bassed chip. They may (according to rumours) consider going for an AMD Blackcomb bassed GPU as recently they have been putting out GPUs that give better performance per watt which is very important for consoles.

RAM will likely be 4GB system RAM 2GB VRAM

Wouldn't 4-5ghz get too hot? Not so sure about sony going with AMD, they have a great relationship with nvidia apparantly, but I'm not as informed as you are. And yeah, I meant shared ram for 4gb, wasn't sure for vram :)



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