Loving this season so far. Can't wait for next episode and the friend vs friend fight. Also, yeah, I'd shot the kid on the fence and just left.

In a doomsday scenario you can't continue to care for the lame ducks. Its back to full evolutionary tactics of survival of the fittest. Especially, when you have no family/friendship relation to the guy and there are tons of walkers coming.

me: "sorry, at least this is painless and you won't be a zombie." (BAM shot through the head.)

I never got the sense of hope from him though, I mean I know he was talking the talk but i don't think he represented that to the group. I always felt like he was an old stubborn bastard in denial, just not willing to accept the reality. I forgot to mention before though regarding Herschel the way he stayed calm when those guys were trying to shoot em up and the way he handled himself with Glen in the back of the building. I bet he has a more colorful history like badass war vet or something.

Couldn't have said it any better.

Yh i want him to have some history come into play, somet that ben haunting him for a long time explaining why he is so protective of his family

Im a Rick fan and wanted Shane to pay for his actions, but when he was in that bus I hopped that rick would help him. I dislike him but I would prefer if he finds his way and they become a team. If Shane does anything against Rick now his death is deserved.

Loved it! I'll tell you what, I haven't really been liking Rick all that much even though I could always appreciate his integrity. I also haven't cared for Shane's aggro ass even though I could definitely appreciate his logic. But Rick went a long way tonight in getting me in his camp. First, I loved his straight up, "This is how it's gonna be Shane" approach to Shane, it really reminded me of a father putting his kid in check. That's MY wife, MY son and MY baby. I liked what he said about his own strength too, very sage like talking about the strength it took not to fuck Shane up all that time. Again, like a mature person schooling some young buck full of piss and vinegar, he's more big picture. Shane's idea of strength is just pure muscle, go stomp out the problem and keep it moving, on to the next fire to stomp out. I've kind of viewed it that way too until tonight. I guess Rick just put it all together in this episode, leadership and I'm with it for the most part. But I don't think Shane is gonna be that cool with it. The shit with Lori and the baby is too much for him emotionally. It sucks because Shane is a good soldier, definitely a dude you want having your back. I'm hoping that whole baby angle gets put to bed with a miscarriage resulting from the car accident.

I'm wondering about the young guy that they had tied up and were supposed to leave in that town. When he was killing that one walker, it seemed like he enjoyed it. Dude was talking shit to her before he started stabbing the shit out of her head, which also had about 4 too many stabs. Then when he was driving the suv after they saved Shane, he was all amped up and loving the chaos. I think he's a little crazy, be best if they kill him.

Yeah, I'm seeing that now about how it's more important for Rick's way in this world. It's because EVERYTHING is so crazy that Rick's way needs to endure. 

As far as Rick killing that kid (ha ha, just rememberd I used to call jerking off, killing the kids), he did say to Shane at the end something about how they will probably have to kill him. But then he went on to say that he needs time to think about it and that it shouldn't be so easy to kill people. So I think you underestimate Rick's willingness to do it. If he comes to realize it's for the greater cause, then he'll do it without a problem.

I disagree with those who don't like Rick's morality. This morality is the only thing keeping everyone from going ape nuts turning against each other. Rick's morality is a much better survival tactic than Shane's ideals, and I have yet to see Rick's plans cause any damage to the group, unlike Shane's.

That said, I am seeing a crazy side start to develop for Rick as his instincts to protect his family are starting to take away some sense. I can't wait to see next week to see if his compassion for the boy will be overruled by his concern for his son, baby, and starting-to-get-bratty wife. I don't like Andrea's personality at all or her stance on suicide, but she wasn't wrong in what she said about her.

All well put points. This makes me think of how good the show is because it seems like there are a few characters that you just can't go too far in one direction of like and dislike. There is always that, "I agree but...." or "I don't like so and so but they were right", lol.

Poor Dale. He was the show's true voice of reason, and now he's gone. Carl's now the most annoying character on this show. Also, why is T-Dog even on this show? He's completely useless.