I'm a huge anime fan. How do you imprint images like that into the game? I want to make some decals for respective shows I like.

It's not as expensive as you might think. I think I will do this next gen, so long as I live in a place big enough to fit this. 3x25" Monitors are about $600. Recardo Race chair is $100, Fantec multiconsole steering wheel with clutch and gearbox is about $300-$400. A Table is $20, and surround sound to that level in the pic is $100 atmost, with bass. Okay, that's over $1,000, but worth it IMHO.

I at least want the chair and wheel. That's $500, and you need a good wheel.

Maybe..

I know what you are refering too, but brightness is the incorrect term. You mean to say that many surfaces look too glossy, and I can agree with that to an extent. Cars do reflec a significant amount of light back, and I'm really surprised Forza 4 can reflect ray sources so accuratly, without traces of rough polygon edges. However the lighting engine is still pretty damn good. Even the review said lighting was good, Turn 10 was just overly proud and took somereflected surfaces overboard. I'd rather have it a bit overboard, then noticably under-par. Forza 4 visuals are still top notch, and he level of brightness and exposure in Forza 4 really make sense.

Not to mention interior car shadows are nowhere nearly as pixelated as in GT5. I guess diferent things bug different people, but overall Forza is better, no doubt in my mind.

Every racing game has this except for PGR4. I honetly didn't notice these until a review pointed them out, and to be fair most of these 2D images are far back.

No...... I drove that car in real life before. It's actually a little deeper, but Forza 4 did it well. I also drove the Camero before, and playinf Forza, I don't think it's the games audio that limits it's accuracy, it's my TV. This is why I am looking for surround sound now, with a sub-woofer.

As for your arguement of the car feeling faster....no, ust no. In real life you just never get to push these cars, even when I test drove the Camero and Mustang in real life, I kept them under 120km/h (75mph). Also in the game, you have no fear of sliding off track, or crashing really, so it's easier to push the cars.

A while back Jeremy Clarkson did a special for GT4 (This is how bug GT is in Europe). He compared his GT4 lap time in an Acura NSX on Laguna Curcuit (same track as in video), to his real life track time. His GT4 track time was 20 seconds faster then his real lap time. That's about 15-20% faster. He aid in a video game, you have no fear to go into that steer downhill section real fast, you don't feel the bumps and how your car looses traction over them, nor do you panic at the wall coming up. He said track times in GT4, although possible, would need a lunatic behind the wheel in the real world to obtain.

This is the same situation with all non-pro gamers. Cars feel faster because most of you guys would never push a car like that in real life. Most of you guys dunno how it feels like when your tires start to loose grip and either understeer or oversteer into a corner, or how sall bumps in the road affect this feel. You also don;t have to worry about ware and tare in a game, but in real life if your bearing pops out, you could total your car.

Man... I'm spamming now. Too many people to reply to. If I make another post, I'm mass compiling it.

The biggest thing GT5 has over Forza- changing day cycles, weather, 1000 cars (granted they dont look that well but they are still there)

BTW many of you are comparing GT5 1.0 to Forza 4. Dont know why its so hard for many to see this but GT5 released about a year ago so its only logical that Forza 4 looks a little better.

Why not compare GT5 2.0 to Forza 4? At least these were released in the same time period.
Also we need at least a couple of reviewers to review GT5 again and lets see what review scores they give it now.

When the sun is behind you in GT5, and the A colum pilar goes over the steering wheel and dash, it's very very pixelated. I always noticed this in every race. It's about as bad as the windshield wipers on a standard car. It's noticable.

Dunno your point about car interiors for GT5. Do you agree with me? The difference isn't, and not all cars look better inside in Forza 4 then GT5. The BMW M3 and Lotus Evova look excellent inside in GT5. However Turn 10 did model the DeLorean, and Ferrari' inside better (talking about in race, not auto vista mode).

Thaought you had 20/20 vision? There is plenty of light to see the pixelated shadows in GT5.

IMHO - Forza 3 was king in 2009, GT5 was king in 2010, Forza 4 is king now. If the next sim isn't due until 2014 (I can't imagine another GT or Forza this gen) that means Forza gets to hold the crown for a bit. Competition brews quality, so I'm going to be expecting big improvements in both franchises in the future.

GT5 never started production on the PS2, however both Forza 4 and GT5 do use some data from the PS2/XB predecessors.

The first Japanese TGS Concept, with 5 cars and 1 track, was based on the PS2 GT4 engine, but that was almost immediatly scrapped. GT5 was for the most part, a game built on a brand new engine from the ground up. Most of the car simulation data had to be replaced too. The only thing GT kept were some of these crap standard cars, they just upscaled the resolution in many cases. Forza 4 is still based on the same engine that Forza 1 was based on, but most of the engine has been rebuilt and only some core structure components still remain. Most of the tracks in FM4 are actually upgraded FM2 tracks.

Trust me man, I know my shit. If there is anything we can expect from GT6, it's a shorter development time. They no longer have to build a new engine from scrap, and they can really polish the current engine now, make all the cars premium.

He is right. I own ever Forza and GT game thy have made, and I've notied Forza has really surpassed GT this gen. Forza is the king now, and looking at the commnts of this thread, people seem to be defending GT, and not Forza.

No one is really argueing that Forza 4 doesn't look spectacular, most people are givi excuses to why the game got such good reviews, and why it looks and sounds so good, but no one is attacking Forza 4. No one is even rally attacking GT, but people are stil ldefending it. GT5 looks awesome, Forza 4 just looks a lot better. Forza 4 is king, simple as that.

DoDece you said it well.

Bro 5 five year develop cycle, if they didn't do all/most they can in those 5 years, they're doing it wrong. It's a stupid thing to do, wish that reviewers would re-review games after patches, that would mean every game should be re-reviewed constantly, every time a patch is released >_>