The thing about the DS and the PS2 is that both of them are on their way out, so stores are not going to be keeping much in extra stock.  In all likelihood, there are probably more DSs on shelves than there are PS2s.  And the latest shipment data we have has the PS2 at 152.3 million and the DS at 147.86 million.  That is pretty close, however, the PS2 only shipped 40K less than the DS for the Apr-June quarter.  So, there may actually be a chance that the PS2 is going to remain the top selling console of all time, since I still see it sticking around for quite awhile longer.  The DS, on the other hand, is probably going to slowly drop below the PS2's sales as Nintendo starts to push the 3DS even more, maybe even taking it off of shelves in 2012.

The thing is there is way more PS2 on shelves than DS considering their main market at the moment are emergent countries where they are plenty of PS2s. Also, you say DS won't sell anymore because of the 3DS release but what you ignore is the fact that the PS2 sold a lot of million units after the PS3's launch and so did the GBA after the DS launch.

One more thing, DS is actually selling 2-3 times what PS2 is selling on a weekly basis and this number will grow even more during the holidays.

Don't be a jerk, I responded sternly that way because he similarly responded like a jerk.  The 3DS was a failure of a launch, any reasonable peron sees this.  They have recovered somewhat, but have lost a tremendous amount in intended income and current numbers still don't look great.  The PSP Go wasn't a new console, like 3DS is.  The PSP had already succeeded, 3DS is a much bigger deal than the PSP Go experiment.

Point still stands, DS is not way ahead like you claim, it is behind a bit in all likelihood.  It's curious why you mind so much when it's so close anyway.  They're both on the wayo out, let's just check again in a few months, when they're more dead and see what happens.

Ok lets keep it simple, you claim PS2 is still ahead of DS without any proof to back you up, except shipping numbers, and I say that according to VCG numbers DS outsold PS2 long time ago (units sold to consumers).

Anyway the fact that it tooks nearly half the time for DS to achieve PS2 LTD sales says a lot about which system is the best selling and knowing that the 3DS is selling at the same pace (so far) as DS prove at least that it is plain ridiculous to claim that 3DS is doomed at the moment. That's all.

I am keeping it simple.  The people who post the very numbers you are citing say I'm right, and you are wrong. I don't know how I can be more plain there.  The DS is a handheld.  It is a tremendous accomplishment, but I will be truly wowed when a home console does it.  It should happen, as the industry is growing, it's just numbers.  It really is fine with me.

I'm not saying it wont sell a lot, of course it will.  But when Nintendo has to reduce their expected fiscal gain by more than 80 % and incur hardware losses to just get close to DS numbers as people keep touting, it doesn't seem as impressive.   I never said it was doomed, I only said I think the 3DS has been mediocre so far, gameswise and fiscally.

Well I can't wait to see you commenting PS Vita's 1st year then.

... lets all just wait for the vita to release shall we... silly to talk about launch failures now when its competition hasnt releasesed yet..
it be more interesting to talk about the 3DS failures then.. since it failed on the current price point of the vita.. will see if the vita it self can sell at that price..

how long is a launch period anyway? 3DS has been given less than 4 months and it was already called a launch failure.. same standards should apply!.. no excuses.

I will.  3DS will still beat Vita imo, beating a Nintendo handheld is no simple feat.  If Sony simply releases what they've shown in less than 6 months after launch (which they will), I can't see the games being worse in the beginning.  Have you found the game situation with the 3DS to your liking so far? Some definitely have found it fine, just wondering.

Yes, 3DS is doomed and it won't sell EVER, anyone who dissagrees with me is wrong!!!
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